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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: ko-lek-tor on December 23, 2018, 11:02:08 AM

Title: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: ko-lek-tor on December 23, 2018, 11:02:08 AM
I believe this to be an original. Anyone see anything to the contrary?
Was this shift ball used on any other car and any other year besides the ‘69 Camaro? I know a 5/16 pitch was used on 67-8. Only talking this exact part. Thanks.
1969 69 Camaro Shifter Chrome Ball  3/8" Shift Handle 4 Speed Original OE Knob https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173702990259
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: X33RS on December 23, 2018, 03:09:26 PM
I believe this to be an original. Anyone see anything to the contrary?
Was this shift ball used on any other car and any other year besides the ‘69 Camaro? I know a 5/16 pitch was used on 67-8. Only talking this exact part. Thanks.
1969 69 Camaro Shifter Chrome Ball  3/8" Shift Handle 4 Speed Original OE Knob https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173702990259

I have a complete 70 Z/28 shifter assembly with body, rods, stick and ball.  It has the exact same ball that my 69 Z has on it.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bertfam on December 23, 2018, 03:44:39 PM
Really? $100 bucks for an old beat up shifter handle that needs a TON of work???

While I'll admit, it's a better price than THIS ONE (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-69-corvette-camaro-z28-rs-ss-chrome-gm-original-shifter-knob-4spd/173653414603?hash=item286e8cd2cb:g:qP8AAOSweExaJF5D:rk:2:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=4) for $379, IMO, get a repop instead. Once it's installed you can't tell the difference and you'll save yourself a TON of money!

Ed
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bcmiller on December 23, 2018, 05:54:07 PM
I agree with Ed.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: cook_dw on December 23, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Looks like someone thinks it worth the asking price. Supply & demand.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bertfam on December 23, 2018, 07:07:25 PM
Well, considering there are dents and gouges in it, it would need to be turned, then rechromed. Turning it will reduce the original diameter so it won't be "original" anymore! Machining, then rechroming will add another $150 or so, probably more, so why bother to buy an original knob for $100, only to have to put more work and money into it, then lose points because it's not the correct diameter???

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Looks like someone thinks it worth the asking price. Supply & demand.

Note that the current bidder has 4 percent of his bids with the seller! I find that interesting.

But as I always say, it's your money. Do what you want.

Ed
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bcmiller on December 23, 2018, 07:44:58 PM
I am sure there are one or two of those in a drawer in the shop at the farm. 
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: 69Z28-RS on December 23, 2018, 07:57:31 PM
If it's stripped and rechromed, then the 'initial copper coating' would be the stage that it would be filled/polished so no turning (and it's corresponding reduction in diameter) should be necessary...
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bertfam on December 24, 2018, 01:17:25 AM
I'm not sure the copper coat would fill in those dings and divots. And this is just 4 of the several I see in the pictures!

Ed
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bcmiller on December 24, 2018, 01:29:33 AM
Hmmm user name looks familiar
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: ko-lek-tor on December 24, 2018, 02:26:59 AM
They are on to me?
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: cook_dw on December 24, 2018, 02:44:40 AM
At least you got one reply to your actual question.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bcmiller on December 24, 2018, 03:02:25 AM
Yes we are on to you...

Well here is an answer...

If it is GM part number 3955766 - then that part number was used for all manual shift (3 speed and 4 speed) for Camaros that had a console in 1969 and 1970. This should be 3/8 threads. I am not sure if it was used for other applications in other GM cars.

 
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bertfam on December 24, 2018, 03:25:13 AM
Bentley, if this really is your auction (and it appears it is), and they don't back out of the bid, take the money and run!! (Or invest it in lottery tickets!)

Ed
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: 68camaroz28 on December 24, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
Yes we are on to you...

Well here is an answer...

If it is GM part number 3955766 - then that part number was used for all manual shift (3 speed and 4 speed) for Camaros that had a console in 1969 and 1970. This should be 3/8 threads. I am not sure if it was used for other applications in other GM cars.

 
Not sure either if used in other applications but Bentley, what is the weight and is it metal (magnet likes) or non? I had one years ago that looked the part but was not a real GM piece.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: ko-lek-tor on December 26, 2018, 12:02:48 AM
Chick- “ Not sure either if used in other applications but Bentley, what is the weight and is it metal (magnet likes) or non? I had one years ago that looked the part but was not a real GM piece.”
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Chick, when you say, “looked the part”, what was different? How did you determine that ball was not real?
Of the 3 I have, all weigh the exact same, all are within .003 in diameter (1.735) & non-magnetic. What are the chances I acquire 3 chrome balls over a 40 year period and they all be repop? I don’t profess to be an expert on Camaro parts, but common sense tells me the 3 I have are genuine. And Chick, I am not questioning you. I am trying to learn, and you are one authority I highly regard and defer to often. I don’t want to misrepresent my parts and I would like to know how to discern real from 80s repops.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: bcmiller on December 26, 2018, 12:20:39 AM
I will try to get details from a guaranteed original next weekend.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: maroman on December 26, 2018, 01:49:48 AM
If they are non magnetic I would bet they are potmetal, which is Zinc.
Title: Re: Chrome Shift Ball 1969
Post by: 68camaroz28 on February 03, 2019, 07:16:46 PM
Chick- “ Not sure either if used in other applications but Bentley, what is the weight and is it metal (magnet likes) or non? I had one years ago that looked the part but was not a real GM piece.”

Chick, when you say, “looked the part”, what was different? How did you determine that ball was not real?
Of the 3 I have, all weigh the exact same, all are within .003 in diameter (1.735) & non-magnetic. What are the chances I acquire 3 chrome balls over a 40 year period and they all be repop? I don’t profess to be an expert on Camaro parts, but common sense tells me the 3 I have are genuine. And Chick, I am not questioning you. I am trying to learn, and you are one authority I highly regard and defer to often. I don’t want to misrepresent my parts and I would like to know how to discern real from 80s repops.
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I did not measure with a micrometer but looked same size. The difference was it was heavy and since being metal a magnet would give it away. Sorry for late reply.