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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: jim28607 on October 23, 2018, 11:40:41 PM

Title: What is this engine code ?
Post by: jim28607 on October 23, 2018, 11:40:41 PM
What is a “CLB” pad stamp translate to?
Thanks
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: x66 714 on October 23, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
1971-1972 396/402...Joe
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: jim28607 on October 24, 2018, 12:05:15 AM
Thanks joe!
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: bertfam on October 24, 2018, 12:08:14 AM
More specifically:

1971 Full size, Chevelle, or Camaro 402/300 with Turbo 400
1972 Full size 402/210 with Turbo 400, 1972 Chevelle, Monte Carlo, Camaro 402/240 with Turbo 400

What's the partial VIN?

Ed
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: PURESS on October 24, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
you didn't state if big block or small block
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: Kelley W King on October 24, 2018, 06:10:32 PM
I think the (402) would be a big block which is just the late 396 bored out that they continued to advertise and call the (396). The smallblock would be a real (400).
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: PURESS on October 24, 2018, 06:27:16 PM
small block as a CLB code and big block as a CLB code
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: PURESS on October 24, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
CLB   1973   
350
m/t, 4 spd, NB2   J L48   190   4   Vette
CLB   1974   
350
m/t, 4 spd, NB2   J L48   195   4   Vette
CLB   1977   
350
m/t, high altitude   L L48   180   4   Vette
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: PURESS on October 24, 2018, 06:31:57 PM
CLB   1972   Chevrolet   396   210   Mt   LS-3
CLB   1971   Chevelle   396   300   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Chevelle   402   240   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Chevrolet   402   210   Mt   LS-3
CLB   1971   Monte Carlo   402   300   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Chevelle   396   240   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Camaro   396   240   TH   LS-3
CLB   1971   Monte Carlo   396   300   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Monte Carlo   396   210   TH   LS-3
CLB   1971   Chevelle   402   300   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Monte Carlo   402   210   TH   LS-3
CLB   1972   Camaro   402   240   TH   LS-3
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: Kelley W King on October 24, 2018, 07:49:41 PM
Learn something new every day. I always thought the 402 replaced the 396.
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: bertfam on October 24, 2018, 09:16:25 PM
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I always thought the 402 replaced the 396.

It did. There weren't any 369 engines installed in any production car or truck after mid August, 1969. They were all 402 engines. A lot of sites post incorrect information and even Chevrolet literature continued to call it the 396, the 402 AND the 400!

Per the September/October, 1969 Chevrolet Service News and the NOVEMBER 16th, 1969 PRODUCT SERVICE BULLETIN (http://www.camaros.org/images/ref/PSB_69-00-32.jpg), big blocks with the 1970 and later 3 digit engine codes are actually 402 (or 400, depending on what document you look at) cubic inch engines. This included the late 1969 Camaro big blocks. However, some Chevrolet advertising and sales literature still referred to the 402 (or again, the 400) engine as the 396. Not sure when all that ended, but it sounds like they had a heck of an argument about "size" in the marketing department!!

Ed
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: x66 714 on October 24, 2018, 09:53:55 PM
My 8/28/1969 SS396 is actually a 402 with a 3 letter suffix "CJG" 325hp....Joe
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: 69Z28-RS on October 25, 2018, 01:46:21 AM
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I always thought the 402 replaced the 396.

It did. There weren't any 369 engines installed in any production car or truck after mid August, 1969. They were all 402 engines. A lot of sites post incorrect information and even Chevrolet literature continued to call it the 396, the 402 AND the 400!

Per the September/October, 1969 Chevrolet Service News and the NOVEMBER 16th, 1969 PRODUCT SERVICE BULLETIN (http://www.camaros.org/images/ref/PSB_69-00-32.jpg), big blocks with the 1970 and later 3 digit engine codes are actually 402 (or 400, depending on what document you look at) cubic inch engines. This included the late 1969 Camaro big blocks. However, some Chevrolet advertising and sales literature still referred to the 402 (or again, the 400) engine as the 396. Not sure when all that ended, but it sounds like they had a heck of an argument about "size" in the marketing department!!
Ed

The 396 turning into a 402 but still 'called' a 396 was a MARKETING issue... They had built up the customer base/market for an SS396 and I guess they didn't want to confuse us...  :)    Does anyone know WHY they changed the size (Bore I think?)...  Was my 383 RR beating too many of those SS396's??   :)
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: bertfam on October 25, 2018, 01:41:35 PM
I think they changed it because the 396 had a bore of 4.094, which was kind of a strange bore. The 402 bore was 4.125, which was more in line with their tooling.

Ed
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: 69Z28-RS on October 25, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
That makes sense Ed..   Thanks!
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: bcmiller on October 25, 2018, 02:19:19 PM
400 small block is also 4.125 bore.
Title: Re: What is this engine code ?
Post by: KurtS on October 26, 2018, 05:54:13 AM
I think the change was for emissions - over 400 ci had different requirements. But I can't find anything to back it up....