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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: william on September 24, 2018, 01:41:35 AM

Title: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: william on September 24, 2018, 01:41:35 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS/302895546717?hash=item4685fb415d:g:x8gAAOSw6-NbqC23&vxp=mtr

124379N668491

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: william on September 24, 2018, 11:40:41 AM
Body and VIN tag pics removed from the ad.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: Kelley W King on September 24, 2018, 11:51:49 AM
A little late for the wheels but they look good. It says block decked but wouldn,t the vin be by the oil filter?
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: Mike S on September 24, 2018, 11:56:52 AM
 It's over:  This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing.


Mike
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: william on September 24, 2018, 12:04:12 PM
Go to the deleted listing and click on it for pics of the tags. Top of dash has been replaced.

Correct; if the engine is original the VIN would be on the side of the block.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: dannystarr on September 24, 2018, 03:36:33 PM
Owner of dealership said he just went with the owners info. Which we all know is incorrect more often than we would like. He said he pulled the ad and was working on corrections for re-listing.  Danny

   "Thank you for the information. We were unaware of that. We have revised the listing and started a new listing on eBay for the car. I really appreciate it. We didn't intend to mislead anyone. We were just going off of what we were told when we bought the car"
Thank you!
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: bertfam on September 24, 2018, 03:57:15 PM
IT'S BACK (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS/302872983440?hash=item4684a2f790:g:z98AAOSwTGVbpus1), but the ad looks about the same to me. Just no pictures of the tag and the "X-22 CODE SUPER SPORT" reference has been removed and replaced with "L78 / 396 CI / 375 HP / 4 SPEED". At least he added "NON MATCHING NUMBERS" now (although the Youtube video title still says "Matching Numbers").


Ed
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: william on September 24, 2018, 04:26:08 PM
The ad now states:

THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION ON THIS CAR SO IT IS BEING SOLD AS A CLONED L-78 396 SS.

They probably didn't know. Credit Blue Line Classics for quickly making it right. 
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: 70z28lt1 on September 25, 2018, 04:12:40 PM
Sounds like they may have got holding the bag on this one.  The estate executor may have been told it was completely original.
Still a nice looking car.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: MFortie on September 27, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
Hi All,

I was actually considering this car before I found this post.

That said, how well is this “clone” done based on the pics?

And, what would be a fair value based on all that’s been done?

I once owned a pair of ‘69s — SS396(325) and a Z28.  This was back in the 70’s (not at the same time.). Tore the SS apart to make a racecar (then sold it), and eventually sold the Z to buy a new truck.  I know all this may lessen your opinion of me for some of you!  ;D. But I was young and stupid once.  Now I’m just old(er).

Nevertheless, and regrets aside, I’d like to own another 69.  I’m a little discouraged by the all the fake/repro/clone Camaros that seem to abound.  But maybe, short of an unknown relative hoarding a survivor in some dark, dingy garage, a “clone” will have to fill my “want” at a price point that will allow my marriage to endure.

Thanks in advance for any opinions (of the value, not me.). And thanks for sifting through al my blathering.

Mark
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: bertfam on September 27, 2018, 02:03:33 PM
It's a nice car, but in my opinion, it's worth about 10-15k less than the (almost) 55k he's set up as the price. But then again, I don't care for white cars!

Ed
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: Kelley W King on September 27, 2018, 04:20:23 PM
I think Ed is on the money. A clean body and interior with any drive train around here is 30 ish, add a real L78, 4 speed, 12 bolt, and other SS goodies. But I would make sure the vin tags and stamps are right. If it was another color ( not red) I would be calling.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: william on September 27, 2018, 04:43:29 PM
Since the dash top was replaced, the VIN tag was removed. Be certain to verify the hidden VIN on top of the cowl.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: MFortie on October 02, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
Since the dash top was replaced, the VIN tag was removed. Be certain to verify the hidden VIN on top of the cowl.

What tells you the dash top was replaced?  Feel free to PM me if you don't want to publicize the info.  I'm very curious on how to determine 'originality'...

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: rick 67 on October 02, 2018, 11:32:35 PM
 Original hole for vin was cut out when stamped and has rounded edges and corners. The pic of this car clearly shows sharp corners for the vin window.

Rick
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: william on October 02, 2018, 11:55:06 PM
Original top, repro bottom.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
Post by: MFortie on October 03, 2018, 02:49:14 AM
Ahh, I see!

Thank you guys, I’m slowly learning!

Mark