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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aaronz28 on August 27, 2018, 02:14:06 AM

Title: Stock DZ302 ideal performance....
Post by: aaronz28 on August 27, 2018, 02:14:06 AM
Pretty sure I have the car running to optimal performance

You cam literally feel a solid kick in the pants at/around 5000/5200 rpm on up.
Starts pulling at about 3k but really wakes up at 5k
This through stock manifolds

Is this just he secondaries finally opening all the up or just where the 30-30 cam finally wakes up?
Title: Re: Stock DZ302 ideal performance....
Post by: JohnF on August 29, 2018, 01:05:42 AM
That's about right.  Mine starts to pull fairly hard around 4500 rpm.
                              John
Title: Re: Stock DZ302 ideal performance....
Post by: Kelley W King on August 29, 2018, 12:49:34 PM
I think the cam is part of it. But big valves, big carb, ect. means low air velocity and torque. An engine is like a vacuum pump and the 302 needs RPM to pull air. Standard rear was 373 but they really like 410,s.
Title: Re: Stock DZ302 ideal performance....
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 29, 2018, 07:55:52 PM
I think the cam is part of it. But big valves, big carb, ect. means low air velocity and torque. An engine is like a vacuum pump and the 302 needs RPM to pull air. Standard rear was 373 but they really like 410,s.
Agree 100%! Another issue is the lack of torque which adds to that sluggish feeling at low rpm's. 
Title: Re: Stock DZ302 ideal performance....
Post by: Kelley W King on August 29, 2018, 08:37:00 PM
Torque is a big thing on the street. I was at a seminar on big block heads and a guy asked "why did GM even make the peanut port  head for a big block? " Because small ports make torque, but they do not at high RPM.
Title: Re: Stock DZ302 ideal performance....
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 30, 2018, 02:37:39 AM
Low Rpm Torque  vs  High Rpm Power    drive the engine designer in two virtually opposite directions in regards to parts/specification selections.