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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Z10Mike on August 21, 2018, 06:19:35 PM
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Does anyone have an accurate weight for a typical 12 bolt Camaro axle assembly? I'm working with my brother to have his axle shipped and the freight company requires weight for their quote. I'm guessing it might be around 200lbs. I conducted a search and there was only one thread that stated the housing was around 90lbs. The former owner has no means of weighing it. Any help is appreciated.
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I remember weighing one in the 80's. I believe it was in the 190# range.
Mike
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BAthroom scales will work... :)
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Are you asking with gears and axels and full brake hardware (and drums) and emergency brakes cables? Or has it been stripped down?
Gary has the right idea if you have a guy who can man handle it, or balance to on the scale.
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manhandling a full rear by oneself would be tough (if you mean picking it up and carrying it around).. :) When I have to 'handle' one by myself, I lift one end at a time and get it onto something that rolls... but if the rear is out of the car, take the scales to the shop/garage where the rear is.. then lift one end at a time to get the pumpkin center on the scale, then move to the other end to get it balanced.. No problem... :)
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Sometimes you don't have access for a wagon or level ground when finding a rear end... 😉
( I have brought a shovel)
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Mike was asking about 'shipping weight' for a complete rear, Austin... NOT how to get it out of a junkyard... :)
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Well all I was saying is you just have to have a strong enough guy or guys, to lift it and set it on a scale.
But to your comment of rolling it around, sometimes the confines of our shop or where the rear is located do not make it easy to roll around. I have seen guys shops so tight you had to move around sideways in them,.. Oh wait that is my shop.... ;D
I doubt this one is buried, but I am sure many of us have had to get strategic in moving them around is all.
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manhandling a full rear by oneself would be tough (if you mean picking it up and carrying it around).. :) ...............
Back in the 80's (and my youth) when I did the first restoration on my 67, I actually carried the 12 bolt from bench to bench with no problems.
I would even pull cast iron heads off a BBC leaning forward into an engine compartment without breaking a sweat......... Roll forward to 2018.......if I tried that today I'd be speaking a few octaves higher and be in some form of a back traction device. When I re-restored my 67 this time around I had to have my son help me carry the very same 12 bolt that I was once able to carry by myself. The slow decay of time catches up to us all. :(
Mike
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I have one in the basement (an OTC disk brake unit), with the gears/axles/brackets/etc (without the rotors/calipers) that I can/did lift a few years ago to sit it atop a wheel barrow. I could go weigh that one, but not sure how accurate it would be versus a stock Camaro 12 bolt since the axles are much larger!
PS. I used to do a lot of stuff that I shouldn't have and I have back/joint problems to prove it! :) Now I try to use my brain more and my back muscles less... :)
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Thanks for all of the interest and feedback. We are trying to do this remote control at this point and the seller isn't set up to weigh it. Again, this is a complete drum to drum axle with all internals. I hope nobody thinks they're still 10 feet tall and bulletproof and attempts to tote one over to a scales. My mind says I can still do things that my body can't live up to. Getting old is humbling! If all else fails I will tell the freight company it is 225 lbs. and hope that covers it.
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I was going to say tell them 250 but 225 will work. Not much difference in price to ship anyway. A lot of shipments I receive at work are noted as weighing way more that it really does.
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Mike, I've got a 1970 Monte Carlo 12 bolt fully assembled drum to drum with cables.
210 lb's.
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Thanks! Good info to have.
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Boom ! There ya go :D 3 or 4 yrs ago I shipped out a 12 bolt rear fully assembled from backing plate to backing plate (no brake hardware or lines) and I shipped at 200 lbs.
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A bit off but related to this topic, in that A few have mentioned we need to work smarter as we get older.
I saw a similar item for sale in the Old days 80's from a Camaro parts vendor so I copied it. I purchased a Chevy engine rolling stand you see at the swap meets for about $25.00. We then machined some steel saddles and cut down the side and welded the flat bar and saddles in place and gave it a coat of Chevy Orange, It is shaped like a "U" on purpose to allow a floor jack to be inserted to raise it off the saddles, It Works great! I have had about 4 rears job on this including a 69 Chevelle rear & 65 Buick Rivera (Yes it barely fit ha)
It Even disassembles and fits in the original Box for storage when not in use
I like sharing working smarter.
JIM
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One other way to get the weight would be to get the vehicle (the one the guy will use to haul the axle to the shipper) weight without this axle in the bed. This is known as the Tare or Unladen weight. Vehicle scales can be found at salvage yards, recycling stations and grain handling businesses. After Tare weight is established, owner can go back to where axle is located, load into the same vehicle, then go over the same scale and establish the Gross weight. Take the gross weight, subtract the Tare weight and you will have the axle weight.
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Good information from all and very much appreciated. I will have my brother set things up for 210lbs and that should be pretty darned close.
BTW - 169INDY - Nice axle cradle/dolly. I would bet that some folks on this forum wouldn't mind buying one from you if available.
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One other way to get the weight would be to get the vehicle (the one the guy will use to haul the axle to the shipper) weight without this axle in the bed. This is known as the Tare or Unladen weight. Vehicle scales can be found at salvage yards, recycling stations and grain handling businesses. After Tare weight is established, owner can go back to where axle is located, load into the same vehicle, then go over the same scale and establish the Gross weight. Take the gross weight, subtract the Tare weight and you will have the axle weight.
Bentley? Have you been doing some 'clean up' as I have? :)
I've been cleaning up around my 'old dirty shop'; getting rid of some things that have been stored under the shed for nearly 40 years, so recently I hunted down a scrap metal place about 10 miles away, and carried 800 lbs of scrap metal (including an old cracked '67 302 block that I'd been keeping since 1972 for some goofy reason!) I was paid around $8/100lbs... and they do have such a scale as you describe... first time I'd done that since 1977 when I hauled an old '55 body to a different scrap metal company.
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Wow, that light, I am getting old quick! About 14 years ago I swapped out a rearend in a 3/4 ton Suburban I owned. Heavy but managable. Just did the 12 bolt in the Z, would have guessed 500lbs😥, lol.
Nice diff rack!
Like some here, got to get back to cleaning stuff out. Was off to a good start, got a trailer out to scrap. When it gets to the pretty good stuff, I hoard. Nothing even special, got cold feet with a few items I pm'd Cook.
With the passing of my mother in law early this summer, and cleaning her place out, my wife and I said anything not being used is going.
However,the bushings and balljoints I replaced on the Z, my kid can pitch when I croak, along with a few other items which really arent any good, but cant get rid of. Thats why the exhaust is going back on it, not sitting around another 50 years.
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Scales at a scrap metal recycling place that pays by weight will invariably read on the light side, at least in my own experience down here.
Good to see from earlier posts how much a 12-bolt does weigh. I can still remember pulling and loading a fully-assembled Dana 60 rear from under a Camaro on my own, in a cramped and uneven driveway...... not something I would choose to do again.