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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: william on July 25, 2018, 04:06:14 AM

Title: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: william on July 25, 2018, 04:06:14 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS-Z11-396-INDY-500-PACE-CAR/263834036115?hash=item3d6dbbe793:g:Fe8AAOSwKARbVtHI&vxp=mtr

123679N659991

That's the VIN for a 6 cylinder Camaro convert built on or about June 20, 1969. The Z11 body tag shown has an 02D date; 4th week of February 1969. The tag is retained with non-original rivets. It is not original to the car.

From the ad. Virtually none of this could be accurate.

1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO SS Z11 INDY 500 PACE CAR MATCHING NUMBERS ALL ORIGINAL!!!EVERYTHING ORIGINAL ! NEVER RESTORED ORIGINAL PAINT EVERYWHERE EXEPT HOOD AND 1 DOOR NO RUST NEVER IN ACCIDENT!!!ORIGINAL TOP IN PERFECT CONDITION CRAZY COOL DRIVER !”

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: 68 Ragtop on July 25, 2018, 12:53:14 PM

And it's not a typo.

(https://dealeraccelerate-all.s3.amazonaws.com/vanguard/images/3/5/5/355/90639_5c1a993b3a_low_res.jpg)

Trim tag looks original, to bad everything else isn't.

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: BillOhio on July 25, 2018, 01:12:14 PM

I looked at his feedback and looks like he has sold you tube subscribers?  Why would you do that

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: bertfam on July 25, 2018, 03:00:01 PM

If you google the phone number in the auction, it appears he's a consignor so he probably has no clue. Just parrots what he's told by the owner. Someone should contact him and let him know though. (Although he probably doesn't care because he's got a 93.3 approval rating on only 251 transactions! That's really bad by ebay standards.)

Ed

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: z28z11 on July 25, 2018, 10:25:00 PM

Where's the pic of the VIN in the ad ? Or did someone have a separate ?

That's great -

Regards,
Steve

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: william on July 26, 2018, 12:34:50 AM

Google the VIN; leads to a series of photos from a previous ad. Car is worse that I thought. Looks to have a mid-70's 10 bolt axle and sub frame connectors.

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems
Post by: z28z11 on July 26, 2018, 01:36:02 AM

I'm considering going to the garage and hugging my Z11. Someone ought to let the air out of this one -

Regards,
Steve