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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: marriest on July 18, 2018, 10:18:39 AM
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I finally got time to take pics of block, trans, and rear end numbers do they look OK?
Engine Block T0505JB on Pad, Vin #on Casting by oil filter (pic)
Transmission P9D25A, 9N641885 (pic)
Axle BT0501G2, E by itself (pic)
Vehicle vin #12467N641885
Comments appreciated
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More pics
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Pic 1
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What does the 1 mean in front of the VIN?
Thanks
Terry
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1 is for Chevrolet. But there should be a 9 after the 1
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Try to post clear pics - a bit larger- up to about 200 kB max size.
Information on posting pics here at this link.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7809.0
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The VIN derivative stamp on the side of the block has to be identical to the transmission VIN derivative stamp as they were both done at the same time with the same tool setup.
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Not necessarily...
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Axle is clearly a restamp.
Do you have a pic of the engine pad and trim tag?
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cowl (pic)
engine Pad (pic)
Trim Tag (pic)
How can you till Axle is re-stamp??
Vin#12467N641885
Thanks
Terry
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Not necessarily...
This VIN derivative block stamp does not look to be normative practice. If it is "possible" that it could happen some other way, then please enlighten me.
That block date suffix stamp is obviously not original.
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There are some obvious issues with the stampings on this car.
But I will stick with what I said earlier.
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For us less informed, can you show what a correct number looks like or state why it is wrong?
I would love to learn what to look for when it comes to the correct numbers and locations
Thanks for your comments
Terry
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The block assembly date/suffix stamp surface has been altered to appear that it has broach marks. Looks to me like a fresh stamping from the photo. Just go find an old engine that is not collectable to see what they are supposed to look like. Nobody ever re stamps a non-collectable engine.
The Engine and Transmission VIN derivative stamps were both done at the same time with the same tool as the 2 pieces were being prepared for installation on the factory assembly line. If the two stamps do not match each other, it is unlikely they were stamped together in the usual way. Add to that the missing digits, and it looks even more likely that one or both are not original.
Folks around here are shy about giving too many details away but these are pretty obvious.
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The Engine and Transmission VIN derivative stamps were both done at the same time with the same tool as the 2 pieces were being prepared for installation on the factory assembly line
That’s not always true. Your blanket statement is not 100% correct.
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For us less informed, can you show what a correct number looks like or state why it is wrong?
I would love to learn what to look for when it comes to the correct numbers and locations
Thanks for your comments
Terry
Did you buy this car advertised as an all original car and pay a premium price?
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Dash Vin# (pic)
GM Build Sheets
I am getting curious about some things I have observed.
I even had the car appraised without any questions being raised?
Are the any information books available for studying that have more information on the topic?
It appears there is debate from different members here.
Thanks so much
Terry
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Try again.
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Who inspected and appraised it?
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Auto Appraisal Group inc.
Terry
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I am going to let Kurt comment on the tag, etc.
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Trim tag is too late for a pace car.
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I've said before that the trim tag is a reproduction. That picture clearly confirms that.
The picture quality of the engine pad isn't good enough to make a definitive call, but it looks sanded and redone.
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Marriest, would you care to send me all the uncompressed full size photos please?
cook_dw"at"hotmail.com
Replace "at" with @
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Did you buy this car advertised as an all original car and pay a premium price?
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=16407.0 (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=16407.0)