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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: Ohioscott on March 20, 2018, 04:20:14 PM
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I saw on here some one ID a car from a vin
Can this vin be IDed? 125379N553456
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He googled the VIN and found a tag picture. You have a typo in the VIN.
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ok I'll try that
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the number is 124379N553456 and when I Google it nothing shows. is there anything else available to decode?
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It’s a 1969 Camaro coupe that came with a V8 engine originally.
Do you have a pic of the cowl tag?
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It was built fall of 68. Will not have the X code.
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Did anyone say it would have an X code???
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it does not have the x code. but it has all the evidence of a ss/rs 350 car
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What is the evidence?
Can you post pics?
Are the original engine, transmission or rear axle with the car?
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it's got the original drive train from engine to axel
numbers match the vin. multi leaf rear end 4 speed 350 300 hp
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OK, so what do you need to identify? I am confused.
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I saw that another guy got his vin decoded so I thought my vin might have some info other than the basics.
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I saw that another guy got his vin decoded so I thought my vin might have some info other than the basics.
In addition, your number indicates it was built at the Norwood, Ohio plant. To further pinpoint the build date, it was either the 1st or 2nd week (12A,12B) of December of 1968 and because it does not have an X code, 1st Week is more probable.
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Estimate production date for VIN 'N553456' to be 2nd work day of December: ie. 3 December 1968 (a Tuesday).
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I saw that another guy got his vin decoded so I thought my vin might have some info other than the basics.
In addition, your number indicates it was built at the Norwood, Ohio plant. To further pinpoint the build date, it was either the 1st or 2nd week (12A,12B) of December of 1968 and because it does not have an X code, 1st Week is more probable.
You betcha - this car is about 320 cars away from my L78, a 12A car (non-X coded unfortunately). Also, unfortunately, in the middle of the NCRS missing dealer data. At least I have the original engine for a 500 pound P-O-P.
Regards,
Steve
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I saw that another guy got his vin decoded so I thought my vin might have some info other than the basics.
That was a lookup of the VIN to find an ad for the car. And the tag was in the ad..... Nothing magical.
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it's got the original drive train from engine to axel
numbers match the vin. multi leaf rear end 4 speed 350 300 hp
What else would you want? You also have the build month and week, original interior and exterior colors shown on the trim tag.
The section at this link might be helpful.
http://www.camaros.org/diffs69.shtml
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Now that your car has been identified, how about posting some pics? I think we'd enjoy seeing the car.
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thanks for the info
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Gary,
Since you are estimating day of the week. What day would my 12A N557961 be?
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Kelley, actually I estimate 'production day' based on uniform production during the month of December, and then check the production days for the month of production. Your car would have come off the line late on a Tuesday (10 Dec), or early on Wednesday (11 Dec) - ie. 7th or 8th production day. If you have your NCRS production report, check this estimate against what your report says.
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http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#When (http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#When)
https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1968&country=1 (https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1968&country=1)
Then do the math and it'll usually get you close. He's not gonna have a report to look at.
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True about the report. Vin fits the NCRS black hole. Garys estimate is close enough for me. It seems that 12A cars are popular in the posts.
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restored around 1978
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Thats funny. I can't imagine restoring a car that is only ten years old now a days.
So even in 1978 these cars were considered special enough to restore?
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Lace paint jobs were old news, fender flares and shoe box hood scoops were garish. Gas prices forced most to be put away. The first inkling they might be valuable as #s matching original cars was becoming known. Northern cars such Ohioscott's probably had some early rust issues from being winter driven. My 69 had its first paint job in 1974 that I know of. One thing I can tell you before the internet parts were very hard to find.
Rick
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when I purchased my '69 in April 1976, I immediately went to the Chevrolet dealer and ordered all the trim/etc parts I thought I might replace when I 'restored' the car; at the time I thought I might do a restore in 2,3, or 4 years, but instead the car was garaged for 38 yrs instead... and my plan changed to 'preservation' rather than restoration over that time fram
I knew to purchase parts from Chevrolet even though the car was only 7 yrs old at the time because I'd gone thru the same process with my '55 Nomad (of looking for parts in junkyards, etc) before learning that even 20 yrs later Chevy still had some parts for them... so I thought to buy what I could as early as possible. I think lots of people learned that lesson also, as most parts for special interest cars *like Camaros* disappeared quickly from Chevy's shelves by people buying them up for later resale... thus the high prices for NOS parts nowadays!
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mine had the typical ohio rust. and at that time I was able to get all the gm sheet metal except the outer rear fender wells. I think what helped me was I had a 69 buick stage 1 car when i was 16. it needed a cam so I got it running only to blow it up months later. it was at that time I started to realize the value of these cars. A replacement RS code buick engine could never be found. so when the camaro came along I got as much parts nos as possible. they were cheap. most dealers offered a 20 percent discount for guys restoring cars.
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Thats funny. I can't imagine restoring a car that is only ten years old now a days....So even in 1978 these cars were considered special enough to restore?
Silly Austin, only if it was H.O. It was worth restoring.
Seriously, from my perspective (and probably Gary and others) having bought my car in 79’, these 1st gens. never fell out of favor, like some other years or models. There has seemingly always nbeen a lot of interest, even way back, in fixing up these cars. That is probably why so many parts were available over the counter from Chevy BITD?! That is how I ended up with 2 cars in 79. I wanted to fix one up to show. Back then, it was cheaper to buy a new fender than to fix a small hole. That is how my car (SS 350) got taken apart and sold off the original doghouse (regrets), and bought new sheet metal. The vast amount of parts available were one reason the car’s popularity persisted, even after 10 years! How many other cars can you say that for? The parts manager who was my connection for getting GM parts from (at cost, I’ll add), back then, had a 69 Z. I’ll never forget going over to his house with a buddy. In his basement were shelves And shelves of new 69 parts. On his lunch hour he would go through the parts books and order any part still available for a 69, he told me. He had A LOT of parts (maybe more than the dealer)all categorized in bins. He was in the middle of a divorce and was selling off stuff. My buddy bought the whole drivetrain and put it in a 68 RS. I rebuilt the DZ engine for him. Before he sold my buddy the engine, he offered everything to us including his just painted body shell ( Cortez Silver) for 3 grand! A deal even then.