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Title: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: 6667ss138 on February 04, 2018, 04:04:35 PM
Not mine. Hefty price, would be nice to see more and better pics. What do you guys think?

https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/d/camaro/6483613044.html
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: X33RS on February 04, 2018, 04:18:09 PM
Neat to still see these out there.

If still original carb, the base plate has been changed.  It no longer has the PCV connection, and electric choke has been added.  Smog missing.  The car has been tinkered with a bit.  Overall though, pretty cool.  I wouldn't pay that for it, but cool none the less.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: BULLITT65 on February 04, 2018, 06:00:52 PM
Kind hard to put a number on it. I would say not 85k, but more than a restored car you would think, right?

If you corrected the steering wheel, and a couple of the small things you would have a nice driver.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: arocars on February 04, 2018, 06:40:01 PM
Looks very original. It reminds me of a vintage Hot Wheel. Played with, and a little banged up, but still rolls nice.

$85k? Seems like a lot of money for a used car.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: betarho on February 04, 2018, 06:58:48 PM
http://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=146942
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: BULLITT65 on February 04, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
Thanks betarho.

From the Yenko link:
Quote from member camaromb
"I looked at this '69 Z 2 years ago. It has a drivers side spliced quarter, most of that side painted, getting crusty under wheel well trim, lower fender rusting through, bumped under rear bumper, missing spare tire/smog/carb etc. Neat car but it needs to be restored and at the time he wanted $100k. It survived 10 years in Illinois and then was stored, not pretty underneath!"
*Corroborated by another member who is a neighbor.
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A lot of good insight by both Yenko Members. So with that info (*if true) I would say more like 30-35k car.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on February 04, 2018, 07:55:43 PM

 but more than a restored car you would think, right?




Not in my book.

I like nice original cars like everyone else, but IMHO the whole "patina" craze is out of hand.   I would prefer a nicely restored car over something this any day. 
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: BULLITT65 on February 04, 2018, 07:59:36 PM
Well now that I have the info from the Yenko site, my opinion has changed. BUT if it had been all original, I would think 50-60k, would be around the price range.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: bcmiller on February 04, 2018, 08:45:33 PM
It is VERY hard to evaluate a car with just some pics. An on-site personal inspection is always needed. No drivetrain stamping pics are shown in the ad? And yes this whole “patina” craze is out of hand. 

And believe it or not, a 69 Z28 isn’t all that rare. It’s just been a desirable car for many years and that has driven the price up on quality cars.

He won’t get anywhere close to that asking price in my opinion. Maybe not even half. But again to evaluate a car, you have to see it in person.

Over and out.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: X33RS on February 04, 2018, 09:01:48 PM
Thanks betarho.

From the Yenko link:
Quote from member camaromb
"I looked at this '69 Z 2 years ago. It has a drivers side spliced quarter, most of that side painted, getting crusty under wheel well trim, lower fender rusting through, bumped under rear bumper, missing spare tire/smog/carb etc. Neat car but it needs to be restored and at the time he wanted $100k. It survived 10 years in Illinois and then was stored, not pretty underneath!"
*Corroborated by another member who is a neighbor.
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A lot of good insight by both Yenko Members. So with that info (*if true) I would say more like 30-35k car.

Ah well there ya go.  Not quite as untouched as the owner may indicate.  Changes things. 

I agree patina has gotten nuts.  What some are calling patina I'm looking at a car that needs a total restoration.  I like nice unrestored cars if they present well and still have decent original paint left and score well with certification.  But some of this stuff they are passing off now looks like they dragged it from the bottom of a river.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: 6t9x33 on April 05, 2018, 01:31:08 AM
I must think a little more of the car than the other guys.I bought the car. I think It’s way better than the rumors. 👍
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: 69 Zee on April 05, 2018, 02:56:28 AM
Very cool 6t9,  can you post pics ?
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: 6t9x33 on April 05, 2018, 04:41:35 AM
Darrell I’m leaving for Auto fair in Charlotte in the morning. I will try To post some pics when I get Back.👍
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: Kelley W King on April 05, 2018, 12:21:34 PM
If you are coming to Charlotte pack some warm clothes.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: bcmiller on April 05, 2018, 02:47:10 PM
I must think a little more of the car than the other guys.I bought the car. I think It’s way better than the rumors. 👍

Which is why I said above

It is VERY hard to evaluate a car with just some pics. An on-site personal inspection is always needed.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: william on April 05, 2018, 04:14:57 PM
I must think a little more of the car than the other guys.I bought the car. I think It’s way better than the rumors. 👍

One of the 'other guys' that posted comments, camaromb, is one of the most knowledgeable people in the hobby. I have been involved with '69s for nearly 43 years and have known him nearly as long. We regularly talk '69s; he recently acquired two survivor '69 Camaro SS primarily to learn more about the cars.

I hope disregarding his comments about the car works out for you.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: bcmiller on April 05, 2018, 05:04:19 PM
Me too. And I hope it was looked over very closely before the purchase took place. 
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: 6t9x33 on April 07, 2018, 02:08:54 AM
Not taking away from anyone’s knowledge at all, but I do Know I’m very happy with the car which has some great aspects and originality. But does have some bumps,bruises,and flaws. But I loved the car and the story that goes with it and plan on enjoying it.
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: m22mike on April 07, 2018, 08:47:14 PM
I must think a little more of the car than the other guys.I bought the car. I think It’s way better than the rumors. 👍

One of the 'other guys' that posted comments, camaromb, is one of the most knowledgeable people in the hobby. I have been involved with '69s for nearly 43 years and have known him nearly as long. We regularly talk '69s; he recently acquired two survivor '69 Camaro SS primarily to learn more about the cars.



I hope disregarding his comments about the car works out for you.

Mark "Camarcmb" and I have become friends over the years, because of Camaro's. He is one of a few that are very deep in knowledge off what is out there.
Mike
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: KurtS on April 08, 2018, 11:25:48 PM
Not taking away from anyone’s knowledge at all, but I do Know I’m very happy with the car which has some great aspects and originality. But does have some bumps,bruises,and flaws. But I loved the car and the story that goes with it and plan on enjoying it.
Your car to enjoy! :)
Title: Re: Survivor Craigslist 69 Z
Post by: 6t9x33 on April 11, 2018, 02:01:59 AM
Thanks Kurt!   :)