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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: william on January 30, 2018, 04:40:39 PM

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Post by: william on January 30, 2018, 04:40:39 PM: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro/222816307066?hash=item33e0e3077a:g:6oMAAOSwLjxab~Af&vxp=mtr

Also, done incorrectly.
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Post by: bertfam on January 30, 2018, 05:42:51 PM: For future searches, the VIN is 124379N695328 and the body number is NOR134829

Ed
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Post by: z28z11 on January 31, 2018, 01:08:13 AM: Terrible If you look at the bidders (37 bids so far), you get a better than average sense of a shill bidder involved as the first 20 or so bids are by a bidder with no auctions to his/her credit. There are a few legitimate bidders involved, but they should know better. Still quite a few members of the Society of the Awfully Poor Souls (SAPS) unaware of faked Camaros, eh ? Code 10 rounds them up every time -

Regards,
Steve
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Post by: WorkinProgress on February 01, 2018, 02:13:22 AM: It even comes with a "Throw Down Backseat"
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Post by: Kelley W King on February 01, 2018, 01:10:06 PM: How about that extremely rare cruise control for a 69 Z. I think that is "one of ??" The only other one I have seen is that matching numbers Z with factory air.
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Post by: BillOhio on February 01, 2018, 07:57:07 PM: auction has been stopped. real late car too
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Post by: Mike S on February 01, 2018, 08:30:57 PM: What next...a convertible first gen Z?

Mike
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Post by: maroman on February 01, 2018, 09:54:54 PM: Ah Mike there already are two, one real and one a very good fake.
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Post by: william on February 02, 2018, 12:21:18 AM: It has migrated to the Hemmings site.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chevrolet/camaro/2066450.html?refer=alert

Some puffery from the ad:

VERY RARE 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO RS Z28, TUXEDO BLACK, MATCHING NUMBER DZ 302 X33 CAR.

CORRECT NUMBERS MATCHING. THE CODES ON THE COWL TAG ARE CORRECT. THE NUMBERS ON THE ENGINE AND TRANNY MATCH THE VIN #

THIS WAS VERIFYED FROM STEVE LINDEN. WWW.STEVELINDEN.COM
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Post by: bcmiller on February 02, 2018, 01:04:18 AM: Never heard of him...
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Post by: rick 67 on February 02, 2018, 01:28:15 AM: Butcher job on the rear seat partition. No bottom bar for it. The package tray fold over is terrible. With that VIN on the oil filter and tranny there should be D80 on the trim tag and the antennae on the front fender.
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Post by: BillOhio on February 02, 2018, 02:26:06 AM: What did you guys think of the stamps? I wasnt crazy about either.
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Post by: bcmiller on February 02, 2018, 07:11:04 AM: Pics are crappy, maybe on purpose.

Personally, I wouldn’t give the car another look and just move on.
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Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 03, 2018, 06:32:07 PM: Quote from: BillOhio on February 02, 2018, 02:26:06 AM
What did you guys think of the stamps? I wasnt crazy about either.

I’m no expert but the engine VIN stamps looks way too clear compared to mine & others I’ve seen.
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Post by: Niblet on February 17, 2018, 11:07:04 AM: what makes the cowl tag a phony? i want to learn,,,
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Post by: x66 714 on February 17, 2018, 12:39:18 PM: Quote from: Niblet on February 17, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
what makes the cowl tag a phony? i want to learn,,,
That's something they don't discuss. The knowledge can get into the wrong hands...Joe
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Post by: KurtS on February 18, 2018, 05:36:32 PM: The 3rd grader looking fonts aren't a big hint??
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Post by: Everett#2390 on February 18, 2018, 06:58:10 PM: Quote from: Niblet on February 17, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
what makes the cowl tag a phony? i want to learn,,,
As said, you won't get any info on faking a tag, just read and compare good tags from experts with fake tags from experts.

For this price, I would expect washers hooked up, and the missing 'Limited Slip' decal on trunk lid.
No spare tire?
Aren't those '67 Rally center caps?
No, Z/28's did not come with CRUISE.
Wouldn't she have a black grille?
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Post by: Charley on February 20, 2018, 01:05:44 AM: Silver grill is correct on a black RS.