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Title: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on December 29, 2017, 10:43:20 PM
We're black stripes on a blue Z28 considered special paint? This Z28 has a - - on the cowl tag.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: BRG Z28 on December 29, 2017, 10:50:04 PM
Yes, stock stripes would have been white, special paint would have have been ordered to get back. I personally think black and blue look awesome together!
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 169INDY on December 29, 2017, 11:22:36 PM
Awe Ha, Service Members Cars.
(Hint The Dod Base Stickers on the right (Left) Correct side of the front Bumper.

Wonder which 68 Model year blue that is?

JIM
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Jon Mello on December 30, 2017, 01:16:39 AM
Looks like it has body colored rally wheels which definitely have been observed on some special paint Camaros. Does it have a blue vinyl top?
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: ZLP955 on December 30, 2017, 08:55:27 AM
Good eye Jon!
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: bcmiller on December 30, 2017, 09:20:18 PM
I would like to know more about the car.

Here is the information on special paint.
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors:S:SpecialPaint
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 68camaroz28 on December 30, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Looks like it has body colored rally wheels which definitely have been observed on some special paint Camaros. Does it have a blue vinyl top?
It sure looks blue in the picture and agree with Bryon as many of us would like to know more about that Camaro.
X2 on the great eye Jon as that did not jump out at me.
On a side note, love the 65 goat beside it as that is one of my favorite cars.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: BillOhio on December 30, 2017, 10:53:25 PM
Sharp GTO too. Looks red with white top.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: VINCE Z28 on December 30, 2017, 11:40:35 PM
You guys that like GTO's, here is a original owner with his 1965? GTO, the picture was taken at my house in 2010. BTY he was 83 years old at the time of picture.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: VINCE Z28 on December 30, 2017, 11:45:48 PM
more
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 68Zproject on December 30, 2017, 11:46:40 PM
I was going to say that looked like the PNW and then I saw the plate. Yep.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 02, 2018, 02:28:46 AM
It was bought new at Vernell Chevrolet in Tennessee. The original owner was in the Navy and ended up in Groton CT with the Camaro. He traded the Camaro in on a 1972 El Camino at Scuncio Chevrolet and Bob Johnson handed the car over to Steve Starre and Carl Roberts to run in his race team.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 02, 2018, 02:32:40 AM
This is the car today with one repaint and the original vinyl top.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 02, 2018, 02:37:23 AM
This photo was taken after the cowl hood was added not long before it was traded in at Scuncio.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: bcmiller on January 02, 2018, 04:07:57 AM
So it was originally Lemans Blue, black stripes and black vinyl top?

Any docs that indicate the details of the special paint?
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: cook_dw on January 02, 2018, 12:46:05 PM
This is the car today with one repaint and the original vinyl top.


Sitting right in that photo and in the Bob Johnson photo.

Any idea where Vernell Chevrolet was located in TN?  Was it in or near Knoxville? 
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Kelley W King on January 02, 2018, 02:21:46 PM
Since my 69Z is a Scuncio car I have over the years gone over a lot of Scuncio photos and information and that car is in several photos that I have seen. I think one with a big block and tunnel ram. Although the pics are old I always wondered about the color?
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Kelley W King on January 02, 2018, 02:37:53 PM
Just googled Scuncio. There are several pics of the car and others in vintage drag photos.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: maroman on January 02, 2018, 05:25:10 PM
I like the black stripes, not a fan of body colored rally wheels. Any documentation that it came that way? Not a doubter, just asking.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 02, 2018, 11:50:10 PM
This is the car today with one repaint and the original vinyl top.


Sitting right in that photo and in the Bob Johnson photo.

Any idea where Vernell Chevrolet was located in TN?  Was it in or near Knoxville? 
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I will check the NCRS report and let you know
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 02, 2018, 11:52:06 PM
This is the car today with one repaint and the original vinyl top.


Sitting right in that photo and in the Bob Johnson photo.

Any idea where Vernell Chevrolet was located in TN?  Was it in or near Knoxville? 
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I will check the NCRS report and let you know

No paperwork on the car but the original block has found.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 04, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Varnell Chevrolet Company Tracy City Tennessee zone 31 Dealer code 499.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: RPOZ28 on January 04, 2018, 04:40:28 PM
Address is 135 Colyar st Tracy City, TN. 37387
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: cook_dw on January 04, 2018, 05:34:37 PM
Oh ok east of Monteagle.  Pretty cool.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: KurtS on January 06, 2018, 12:45:06 AM
We're black stripes on a blue Z28 considered special paint? This Z28 has a - - on the cowl tag.
Depends on the shade of blue. http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors:T:ExteriorPaints
Tripoli Turquoise had black stripes.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 19, 2022, 07:25:34 PM
Funny, this thread is about my car. All these pics are mine, but I showed them to Ed and he proceeded to start this thread about it once I was able to track down the original owner and he sent me pics from when he owned it. I have owned the car since 1981. I found him in 2017 so,...guys, don't give up searching for cars or owners, you never know.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Gars68Tux on October 19, 2022, 07:49:26 PM
Good to see ya here, Frank! :D Anyone interested, here's the thread with additional photos and info from TC...https://www.camaros.net/threads/my-bob-johnson-1968-z28-from-scuncio-chevrolet.484666/

And I see Chick still hasn't added this car to his 68Z list!  :-\ https://www.camaros.net/threads/how-many-members-have-a-68-z-28.182224/page-15
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 19, 2022, 08:08:26 PM
Thank you buddy
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 396 SS/RS on October 19, 2022, 10:41:23 PM
If that is the original vinyl top it has got to be as brittle as ever. I'm surprised it's not turned to powder. I removed and replaced my original top in '87 and it was hard and brittle. The replacement has held up well but has never spent extended periods outside. I'm sure the quality of vinyl had improved from '67 to '87.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 20, 2022, 04:16:01 PM
It was only in the elements for 4 years, 68 through 72. Was a drag car until 81, only out to race during the summer a day or two a week if that, and always garaged the next 41 years by me. Never seen rain or snow. It's not brittle at all. I have always kept it treated with some sort of vinyl protectant.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 20, 2022, 04:23:47 PM
I'd post s few pics to better show the condition of the original top, but I'm having problems figuring out posting photos here. I think I'm doing what I need to, but perhaps because I only have 5 posts here so far, I might not be allowed to post pictures yet.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Gars68Tux on October 20, 2022, 05:17:29 PM
After your text, click on preview button, lower right. Then choose file. If you're still having problems, you may need to reduce the size of the photos.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 20, 2022, 06:23:50 PM
Lets try again.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 20, 2022, 06:25:09 PM
Yes, that black vinyl is shining in the sun,...lol. Not dry or brittle. I'll have to check to see is I have any other closer shots.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 396 SS/RS on October 20, 2022, 10:53:10 PM
I favor the black stripes myself.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Gars68Tux on October 20, 2022, 11:49:53 PM
Lets try again.

Beautiful ...I know you're in the automotive paint business, Frank, is that an authentic LeMans Blue color or little something added for extra POP!? 8)
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 21, 2022, 12:06:46 AM
Lets try again.

Beautiful ...I know you're in the automotive paint business, Frank, is that an authentic LeMans Blue color or little something added for extra POP!? 8)

No, that's Lemans Blue,....factory color.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: MO on October 21, 2022, 03:57:39 AM
I'd imagine that if you mix any color several times it would be a little different each time. For me, a good example is Chrysler's B5 blue. It was inconsistent between brands and years, but it was still called B5 blue.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: Gars68Tux on October 21, 2022, 08:41:09 AM
Yep, have heard Mark Worman (Graveyard Carz) ;) mention differences in B5 Blue. Was thinking I've read 68 and 69 Lemans Blue was different as well. A quick google search brought up this thread....http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=15328.0

Anyway, I've been looking at 2 different monitors (computers) and Frank's car (color) looks more vibrant on one compared to the other. I surely don't want to open a can of worms here...lol, it's a beautiful color anyway you look at it....Although the rally wheels is a bit too much! (imho)     
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 21, 2022, 11:28:58 AM
Yes, there are so many variables concerning photos and colors. Lighting, natural vs artificial, high sunlight vs early morning or evening, cloud cover, florescent lighting, LED, incandescent, etc...to the quality of the camera, digital or old school film photography, exposures, pixels, etc,..etc,... I have had this car for over 40 years, with pictures taken in all kinds of lighting, with all types of cameras. The color looks different in many of them. All I can say is, the door jambs, and inside the truck have the original paint on them, and have never been painted, and the match the repaint on the outside perfectly. The sides are still lacquer paint from a repaint in 1982, the top surfaces are modern urethane painted in the late 90s when I changed hoods for the third time. Everything matches, all the same paint code, even though different types of paint, from different manufacturers,
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 396 SS/RS on October 21, 2022, 01:04:32 PM
It was only in the elements for 4 years, 68 through 72. Was a drag car until 81, only out to race during the summer a day or two a week if that, and always garaged the next 41 years by me. Never seen rain or snow. It's not brittle at all. I have always kept it treated with some sort of vinyl protectant.
That's awesome to be sporting the original top. At times I wished mine didn't have one but it makes it different form the others.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 21, 2022, 03:27:17 PM
It was only in the elements for 4 years, 68 through 72. Was a drag car until 81, only out to race during the summer a day or two a week if that, and always garaged the next 41 years by me. Never seen rain or snow. It's not brittle at all. I have always kept it treated with some sort of vinyl protectant.
That's awesome to be sporting the original top. At times I wished mine didn't have one but it makes it different form the others.

Yes, I like it. Especially with the black interior, they compliment each other well. Also, when I decided to give the sides the Rally Sport treatment to the rockers, removing the single mldg and installing the three piece ones, then paint the lower section black,.... along with the black top and chrome mldgs, it gave the sides that curvy Coke bottle look the first gen Camaros have been compared to.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 68 Ragtop on October 21, 2022, 05:31:15 PM

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Yes, I like it. Especially with the black interior, they compliment each other well. Also, when I decided to give the sides the Rally Sport treatment to the rockers, removing the single mldg and installing the three piece ones, then paint the lower section black,.... along with the black top and chrome mldgs, it gave the sides that curvy Coke bottle look the first gen Camaros have been compared to.
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You should add the belt line moldings as well, to give it the full coke bottle effect. That's one of my favorite things about the 68 and its unique among the first gens.
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on October 21, 2022, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: FRANKTHECRANK


Yes, I like it. Especially with the black interior, they compliment each other well. Also, when I decided to give the sides the Rally Sport treatment to the rockers, removing the single mldg and installing the three piece ones, then paint the lower section black,.... along with the black top and chrome mldgs, it gave the sides that curvy Coke bottle look the first gen Camaros have been compared to.
You should add the belt line moldings as well, to give it the full coke bottle effect. That's one of my favorite things about the 68 and its unique among the first gens.
Funny you say that. I have a factory set in my garage. :)
Title: Re: 1968 special paint
Post by: 169INDY on October 21, 2022, 06:53:35 PM
Yes,Yes!
^^

I was just polishing a Set for my 68Z I am going to Add Z21 style trim to my Vinyl Top Car, (C2) even if it was not equipped new since I feel the same way about the appearance...

CHeers!

Jim