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Title: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 18, 2017, 01:59:28 AM
Thinking about trying to down size my hoard a bit & maybe let go of my 69 Z/28. I was hoping for some advice on how to go about actually selling the car in this day & age? Where would you list it? would you try and fix a few small things first or just sell as is etc.. I think I've owned it 18 or 19 years now & only put about 7000 miles on it in that time.  It's far from perfect, but is still a nice solid  # 3 car. Thankfully, I don't need to sell it, I'm just looking for some info from others that have been down this road.
Any & all advice would be appreciated, Thank you.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: BULLITT65 on November 18, 2017, 03:00:05 AM
Hey Nick,

surprised that the 69Z is on the chopping block, with all the nice cars you own.

1) Depends on what the small things are there that need fixing.  Approx how much are you going to ask or want for it?



Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: PURESS on November 18, 2017, 03:36:57 PM
could we see pictures, history, mileage..etc
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 18, 2017, 04:52:36 PM
Hey Nick,

surprised that the 69Z is on the chopping block, with all the nice cars you own.

1) Depends on what the small things are there that need fixing.  Approx how much are you going to ask or want for it?





Hi Austin,

Yeah I have been considering it for a few years now. The car just sits & usually in the way. lol... I renewed the tag on it earlier this year for the first time in 5 years and only drove it a few times before dropping the insurance& parking it again.  I have always enjoyed my 68's more and you just cant drive them all. lol..

The small things I was referring to are, the oil pan has a leak, it uses a quart of oil every couple of hundred miles, I'm assuming it's the guides. there is a small tear in the driver side seat, & a small rust spot in the driver side door. The rest of the car is very solid & shows well.

I dont really know what it's worth, when you look the prices are all over the place.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: BULLITT65 on November 18, 2017, 05:22:14 PM
If you can fix those things for $1-2k, I would think you would at least get that and more out of it. Your car is not bad now, but with those things fixed it would look really nice. Most buyers don't want to mess with any of those kinds of things.
At the end of the day you are going to have to put a number on it.
Also for the decent sum of money you will get, what are the proceeds going to go towards???
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 18, 2017, 05:22:45 PM
could we see pictures, history, mileage..etc

I bought the car from a dealer in Florida but the car was sold new in Midwest City, OK to Tom & Donna B. from Choctaw, OK. It was then sold to another gentleman Patrick O. also from Choctaw, who owned it for a few years. He told me he drove it to go pick up a new truck and the dealer bought the car from him. At that point it was auctioned off between dealers for a few years before I bought it. I believe I am the 3rd real owner of the car. I bought it with just over 80xxx miles on it and it now has 87xxx on it. I was told the it has only had one repaint done in 1986 by the original owner. I ran a title search on the car years ago and that was how i was able to track down the pervious owners on the car. It shows title history back to 12/1969

here are a couple pics I have on my computer..
(https://s26.postimg.org/dqfda646h/IMG_0834-1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j1u9uvq91/)
(https://s26.postimg.org/mk69r9r55/IMG_0830.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rvl6bzd7p/)
(https://s26.postimg.org/xv8xfmy09/131_0277.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uoedw0dk5/)
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 18, 2017, 05:36:06 PM
If you can fix those things for $1-2k, I would think you would at least get that and more out of it. Your car is not bad now, but with those things fixed it would look really nice. Most buyers don't want to mess with any of those kinds of things.
At the end of the day you are going to have to put a number on it.
Also for the decent sum of money you will get, what are the proceeds going to go towards???

Thats kind of what I thought. I will likely pull the engine and go through it so it's fresh before spring. The door & the seat are no big deal to fix  I can blend the paint on the door since it's just a small spot and maybe take the seat cover off and get the seam sewn back up or just replace the seat cover.



Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: 69Z28-RS on November 18, 2017, 06:23:40 PM
You have a nice car, and having the original owners names, and full history on the car adds value IMO...  You should write up the history as detailed as you can with addresses and phone numbers and anything else you know about each of the prior owners and locations...  ie.. everything you know...   for passing along to the buyer.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 18, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
You have a nice car, and having the original owners names, and full history on the car adds value IMO...  You should write up the history as detailed as you can with addresses and phone numbers and anything else you know about each of the prior owners and locations...  ie.. everything you know...   for passing along to the buyer.


Thank you Gary thats a great suggestion.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: jdv69z on November 20, 2017, 01:59:00 PM
Nice looking car! Is it all original drive train, etc? If it is, keep in mind that a buyer that wants an original car is going to be money and time ahead of buying another car needing original parts located and purchased. There aren't that many out there really original to choose from, so don't sell yourself short.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Kelley W King on November 20, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
From the picture your engine looks to good to pull.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 20, 2017, 06:56:25 PM
Nice looking car! Is it all original drive train, etc? If it is, keep in mind that a buyer that wants an original car is going to be money and time ahead of buying another car needing original parts located and purchased. There aren't that many out there really original to choose from, so don't sell yourself short.

Thank you for the kind words. It has it's original DZ & BU but the trans was MIA, it had an early incorrect M-21 when I bought it.

It was born with a Flat hood and when I spoke to the original owner he said he still had it, but that has been likely 14 or 15 years ago. Back then, I thought I might load it up and take the car back to Choctaw and try and meet both prior owners in person but I never could find the time and then years got away from me etc..
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 20, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
From the picture your engine looks to good to pull.

Thank you. If it didn't use so much oil and have the small leak I would just leave it alone. .
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: jdv69z on November 20, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
Years ago I had my 302 re-done as I had ring failure in #7. I was excited to have that typical small block Chevy rear main oil leak finally fixed as well. About 3 months after I got it up and running again, the rear main oil drip returned. Oh well, the 302 still runs like you know what!!
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 20, 2017, 10:26:56 PM
Years ago I had my 302 re-done as I had ring failure in #7. I was excited to have that typical small block Chevy rear main oil leak finally fixed as well. About 3 months after I got it up and running again, the rear main oil drip returned. Oh well, the 302 still runs like you know what!!

Thats just the way my luck goes also. Right after I finished the resto on my 68 SSRS396 I had a small oil pan leak. I spent 5 years restoring the car and thought I was meticulous when I built the motor. I puled it back out and went to a one piece pan gasket. It was sealed up for about 300 miles and then the d@mn leak returned. That was almost 6000 miles ago, I keep telling myself I will get to it but its been almost 3 years now & I still havent had the time. It's just leaves a small drip on the floor about the size of dime after I've driven it a bit but it still drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Charley on November 23, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
Dammit. I met a guy a couple weeks ago looking for a good Z. He was tired of looking at fakes. It was at Pavillions in Scottsdale. I will be back there in a couple weeks and might see him again. He left his contact info with Larry Christiansen.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: jdv69z on November 25, 2017, 02:41:09 PM
Years ago I had my 302 re-done as I had ring failure in #7. I was excited to have that typical small block Chevy rear main oil leak finally fixed as well. About 3 months after I got it up and running again, the rear main oil drip returned. Oh well, the 302 still runs like you know what!!

Thats just the way my luck goes also. Right after I finished the resto on my 68 SSRS396 I had a small oil pan leak. I spent 5 years restoring the car and thought I was meticulous when I built the motor. I puled it back out and went to a one piece pan gasket. It was sealed up for about 300 miles and then the d@mn leak returned. That was almost 6000 miles ago, I keep telling myself I will get to it but its been almost 3 years now & I still havent had the time. It's just leaves a small drip on the floor about the size of dime after I've driven it a bit but it still drives me crazy.

Yup, that's a small block chevy. They changed the design in 1986 to eliminate the issue. I don't know if that did it or not?
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: 68Tiger on November 25, 2017, 04:49:11 PM
Thinking about trying to down size my hoard a bit & maybe let go of my 69 Z/28. I was hoping for some advice on how to go about actually selling the car in this day & age? Where would you list it? would you try and fix a few small things first or just sell as is etc.. I think I've owned it 18 or 19 years now & only put about 7000 miles on it in that time.  It's far from perfect, but is still a nice solid  # 3 car. Thankfully, I don't need to sell it, I'm just looking for some info from others that have been down this road.
Any & all advice would be appreciated, Thank you.

I would think you would have no problem selling your Camaro its a nice looking car as is. Don't sell yourself short, your being honest and up front about the condition of it and potential buyers will recognize that. I would address the issues you are aware of but that's just my opinion. Being a long time owner is also huge selling point and it doesn't sound like your pressed to sell it so those are more positives.

I would list it in the classified section of a Camaro forum such as Team Camaro. Also, just advertise it at some local car shows and word of mouth will get around. There are a ton of guy's from the muscle car era who are approaching retirement, looking for a hobby and trying to bring back a little of their youth. As far as a value of it goes I would just do some comparisons and you might be pleasantly surprised. In my opinion the last of the baby boomers have expendable cash and are driving the prices up. Good luck!
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 25, 2017, 10:31:39 PM
Dammit. I met a guy a couple weeks ago looking for a good Z. He was tired of looking at fakes. It was at Pavillions in Scottsdale. I will be back there in a couple weeks and might see him again. He left his contact info with Larry Christiansen.

Thanks Charley, I'll bet Larry will find him a good car. I used to drool all over Larry's cars when I would go race the Denver Super Chevy shows years ago.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 25, 2017, 10:35:57 PM
Thinking about trying to down size my hoard a bit & maybe let go of my 69 Z/28. I was hoping for some advice on how to go about actually selling the car in this day & age? Where would you list it? would you try and fix a few small things first or just sell as is etc.. I think I've owned it 18 or 19 years now & only put about 7000 miles on it in that time.  It's far from perfect, but is still a nice solid  # 3 car. Thankfully, I don't need to sell it, I'm just looking for some info from others that have been down this road.
Any & all advice would be appreciated, Thank you.



I would think you would have no problem selling your Camaro its a nice looking car as is. Don't sell yourself short, your being honest and up front about the condition of it and potential buyers will recognize that. I would address the issues you are aware of but that's just my opinion. Being a long time owner is also huge selling point and it doesn't sound like your pressed to sell it so those are more positives.

I would list it in the classified section of a Camaro forum such as Team Camaro. Also, just advertise it at some local car shows and word of mouth will get around. There are a ton of guy's from the muscle car era who are approaching retirement, looking for a hobby and trying to bring back a little of their youth. As far as a value of it goes I would just do some comparisons and you might be pleasantly surprised. In my opinion the last of the baby boomers have expendable cash and are driving the prices up. Good luck!

Thank you for the info & the kind words sir.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Charley on November 26, 2017, 01:39:03 AM
I'll be back in Az next weekend and if I see the guy I will get his #. He had just moved to Az from Oregon and sold his midyear Vette. Wants a good 69 Z.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on November 26, 2017, 09:43:31 PM
Maybe I missed it but is the engine & drive-train original? Make a sheet up listing (similar to what Gary suggested with past owners) the engine trans and rear stampings and date codes along with critical components which both assist obtaining a good price and quick sale. Identify the carb, distributor, starter, and any other original parts that add value like shocks, original spare tire or tire jack (date code), etc.
That way you have both ownership history and car detail documented which many in tune buyers want to know.
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: tmagda on November 27, 2017, 09:54:04 PM
Timely, I just saw this on my craigslist today.

https://syracuse.craigslist.org/cto/d/wanted-real-69z28-camaro-302/6400177015.html
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on November 27, 2017, 10:39:50 PM
Yeah, but he is only offering a dollar! LOL!!! ;D

Paul
Title: Re: Advice on selling 69 Z/28
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on November 28, 2017, 12:23:37 AM
Thank you guys, I'm going to wait until spring before makes any quick decisions and see how I feel about it then. Thank you again.

Ouch!! I was really hoping it would be worth more than a dollar.  :o  lol..