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Title: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 03:19:01 AM
Hello everyone,
A question for ya's, when exactly was the x77 code used in the 69' model year? I'm looking at purchasing a 1969 z at the moment and its confusing.. the fisher body tag shows a build date of 09D. Is this possible?
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: william on November 13, 2017, 04:27:07 AM
1969 Camaro production spanned 16 months: August 1968 - November 1969. X codes entered production December 1968 at the Norwood, Ohio assembly plant.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: 69Z28-RS on November 13, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Hello everyone,
A question for ya's, when exactly was the x77 code used in the 69' model year? I'm looking at purchasing a 1969 z at the moment and its confusing.. the fisher body tag shows a build date of 09D. Is this possible?

The VIN of the car in question will tell you approx when your car was built.. early (Sept '68) or late (Sept '69)...
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 02:16:40 PM
Vin is late 69' 19N690704. The build date of the Motor is on the pad Boss where it should be but the Vin is absent in this location. It is in the area where the Oil filter resides.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 02:45:46 PM
Can anyone help me with this? I'm looking for anyone with experience in alternaThe Vin stamps on Dz's
Thanks,
Toady
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: bertfam on November 13, 2017, 02:56:49 PM
Your question was answered by Kurt in your OTHER THREAD (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg144229#msg144229).

As he stated, the alternate VIN location is discussed HERE (http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml).

Ed
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: william on November 13, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
Re-stamp.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 05:13:35 PM
Can you take a look at this and see what you think?
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: william on November 13, 2017, 05:42:44 PM
Bad photo; too much paint.

Who cares? Pad stamp is all you need to know.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 06:04:03 PM
It would be significant being that the cowl tag shows x77 and the vin matches that of the block would it not?
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on November 13, 2017, 06:12:38 PM
Here's the vehicle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/122663428979?hash=item1c8f4f6373%3Ag%3AESwAAOSw3ONZnKlz&vxp=mtr&nma=true&si=E3rClqAV3nLpRqZaluckd0zpfcQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

124379N690704

Paul
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on November 13, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
It would be significant being that the cowl tag shows x77 and the vin matches that of the block would it not?

Here's a photo of the cowl tag...

(http://veh-markets.com/uploads/postfotos/1969-chev-camero-z-28-matching-numbers-7.jpg)

Paul
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Mike S on November 13, 2017, 06:17:38 PM
Me thinks that rivet looks suspicious  ;)

MIke
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 06:56:59 PM
I guess if the majority is in favour of a fake then it wouldn't matter even if it wasn't. Be too hard to sell down the road.. it does have a POP but these are common.
Thanks
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: william on November 13, 2017, 07:18:22 PM
Was built with a green interior, now black.

Tag does look real but the non-original rivet is a concern.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 08:38:32 PM
I'm from just outside of Toronto Canada and this car originated not far from here. if the GM Canada document is correct.. the Vin would either validate a true z28 or not. I'm thinking a lot of work went into a car that was fake.. still is not worth a whole lot.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: BillOhio on November 13, 2017, 08:55:52 PM
Considering how a born with block can add a third to the price of a car, it easy to see why a block would be restamped.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
I'm from outside of Toronto Canada and if the GM heritage document according to the Vin number of the car is accurate, it is in fact a z28. Purchased not far from where I live. Or the Vin number has been removed from the real car. Either way it's a topic that I think is relavent given the amount of z28's being sold out there.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: william on November 13, 2017, 09:43:31 PM
The problem with CDN docs is cars that are virtually junk are being located, pieced back together. Nothing original remains.

CDN docs used to be an asset. Now they can be a red flag.
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: Toady on November 13, 2017, 10:19:06 PM
This is supposed to be a Canadian documented car as well. Trying to figure out there process on generating a document. Does any one know?
😊 thank you
Title: Re: X77 dates
Post by: KurtS on November 14, 2017, 02:55:08 AM
Original tag, restamped block.
In 2002, car was supposed to be a one-owner car that was restored.  Hasn't changed much in 15 years.