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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: HarrisFD on November 01, 2017, 11:37:01 PM

Title: Future buyers beware
Post by: HarrisFD on November 01, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/d/67-camaro-and-firebird-trim/6352242662.html
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: ZLP955 on November 02, 2017, 02:30:01 AM
4 loose trim tags for sale, 3x 1967 Camaros and 1x 1968 Firebird. All assembled at LOS.
67 Camaro Body numbers: LOS 1271 LOS 22466 LOS 18146
68 Firebird Body number: LOS 53
CL ad image:
(https://images.craigslist.org/00u0u_arueLK8sQLz_1200x900.jpg)
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Petes L48 on November 02, 2017, 03:43:47 PM
4 loose trim tags for sale, 3x 1967 Camaros and 1x 1968 Firebird. All assembled at LOS.
67 Camaro Body numbers: LOS 1271 LOS 22466 LOS 18146
68 Firebird Body number: LOS 53
CL ad image:
(https://images.craigslist.org/00u0u_arueLK8sQLz_1200x900.jpg)

In case the picture is ever lost, to further clarify these LOS tags, since in 67 they used similar body numbers for each of the four possible body/interior type combos and both need to be considered:

67 12437 LOS 18146  coupe standard interior
67 12437 LOS 1271  coupe standard interior
67 12437 LOS 22466  coupe standard interior
68 22637 LOS 53 Firebird


Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: KurtS on November 03, 2017, 03:28:04 AM
Saved.
LOS1271 LOS22466 LOS18146
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Tx-Z 302 on November 17, 2017, 03:05:29 AM
Out of ignorance and curiosity..... These tags are all over ebay from time to time and nearly always from LOS cars.
I guess I'm curious why?  Did LOS produce exponentially more vehicles than NOR or are they all for sale from the California area or ???
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: ZLP955 on November 17, 2017, 10:29:13 AM
Chris, approximately 75% of first gen Camaros were assembled at Norwood. More here: http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#Where
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Tx-Z 302 on November 17, 2017, 03:44:25 PM
Thx ZLP, in my mind if LOS only produced 25% of all camaros roughly that makes me wonder even more why all the tags for sale seem to be LOS tags.

I also saw that chart for " end of month production and vin" that's pretty coo. I had not ever seen that. Naturally I tried to find my vin.   8N467701 it falls in a weird spot for my July second week car? Ncrs paper says July 10th and by the  chart it should be a May or June car if I'm figuring it correctly? Is that possible or normal?
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: KurtS on November 17, 2017, 06:18:08 PM
Please read the caveats *before* that table.
I put an * right before the data applicable to your car.  Maybe I need to bold it too? Lots of people don't read the notes....
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Tx-Z 302 on November 17, 2017, 09:41:41 PM
Lol no you don't have to hold it.... I read it but in my mind I'm trying to understand it.  I'm not sure I understand why it might be off by nearly 6 to 8 weeks. It almost makes me think my cars tampered with is all.
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: PURESS on November 18, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
Chris...what is your number..8N467701?    should have been 8N667701
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: 68 Ragtop on November 18, 2017, 11:17:24 PM
Out of ignorance and curiosity..... These tags are all over ebay from time to time and nearly always from LOS cars.
I guess I'm curious why?  Did LOS produce exponentially more vehicles than NOR or are they all for sale from the California area or ???

I have a few LOS/VN tags that I collected in the 90's while walking through the California junk yards. The kind of junk yards where you pay a fee to enter, then pick your own parts. They still had some of these cars before everyone decided every car was worth restoring.

Not sure about other states, maybe you are not free to roam and scavenge tags, or the Camaro's were junked long before tags became a thing to collect?
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Tx-Z 302 on November 19, 2017, 12:42:47 AM
68 ragtop, we have or at least had lots of pick your part type yards in texas, my point is if you look on ebay or craigslist and come across tags for sale the LOS tags are more often what you see, rather than NOR tags..... my question is if the LOS only accounts for roughly 25% of total camaro production and NOR the other 75%  it seems you'd see more  NOR tags!    its just an observation and i'm just curious why that is?  it doesn't matter just was curious if there was a probable reason for this or it just is what it is. lol
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Tx-Z 302 on November 19, 2017, 12:44:03 AM
Puress, i'm not exactly sure what your saying, my car definitely is 8n467701. according to the tag on the dash and the title, but it could be fake?
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: ZLP955 on November 19, 2017, 01:44:02 AM
Chris...what is your number..8N467701?    should have been 8N667701
Are you thinking 1969 model year? 1968 Norwood VIN sequence numbers were 3xxxxx or 4xxxxx.
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: PURESS on November 19, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
my bad  I was thinking 69's   sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Kelley W King on November 20, 2017, 12:28:19 PM
Could be that LOS tags are easier to build a fake with. Since they had a multi model line the numbers are harder to check. Plus in 69 no X codes so you fake whatever.
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: Petes L48 on November 20, 2017, 05:27:30 PM
LOS cars may have had a higher survival rate than NOR/rust belt as well, bringing the numbers a little bit closer to parity today.  And then there's perception versus reality. 
Title: Re: Future buyers beware
Post by: VINCE Z28 on November 20, 2017, 06:27:29 PM
This particular guy is posting on Los Angeles Craigslist, so his access to LOS tags.