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Title: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Solo Speed Shop on October 31, 2017, 02:51:01 AM
My Z28 had a broken tip Oil dip stick I did a lot of research & bought a nos green tip I changed the oil & Put a long Gm Filter & 5 Qts of oil! Question Oil just shows at tip didn't these come come stock with a short oil filter so should it take 5 1/2 qts when you use the long filter? Tks Bill
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Pacecar on October 31, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
Please keep your original dip stick.  Look at the dip stick you bought and see if it says MS or SE under oil type. SE would be later. Had the same issue with an original dip stick I needed.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: BULLITT65 on October 31, 2017, 04:55:42 PM
Every Z/28 I have seen has the flat tip dipstick. The one on my early 69Z 10B car measures 18 3/4 (flat portion) to the base of the cap.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Solo Speed Shop on October 31, 2017, 05:19:28 PM
I Have that info on dipsticks! My question Did Z28s Come with a short Oil filter & if you use a long one would you need 5 1/2 quarts? Tks Bill
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: BULLITT65 on October 31, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
I have the stock oil filter, which was longer.( I am only aware of the 2 sizes. ) Since it sounds like your dip stick is the right length, another factor may be your dip stick tube got swapped out for a longer one? (not sure if they had different size tubes) just trying to piece together why yours is not reading correctly.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Solo Speed Shop on October 31, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
Thank You! I have had about 6 Z28S In my life & was told they used the short oil filter Does any body know? Did they come with Short or long? How much oil if Short? My Tube Looks Stock does anybody know right length of tube measurement from top of block? Tks Bill
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: bertfam on October 31, 2017, 07:11:13 PM
The Z28 302 oil pan holds 4 quarts (5 with filter), so if you're using the tall 2 quart oil filter, you'll need to add another 2 quarts to the system for a total of (plus or minus) 6 quarts.

Ed
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: william on October 31, 2017, 08:48:38 PM
There was no 'short' filter back in 1969. The owners manual states all 8 cylinder engines have a 5 quart capacity, including the filter.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: bcmiller on October 31, 2017, 09:27:39 PM
My Z28 had a broken tip Oil dip stick I did a lot of research & bought a nos green tip I changed the oil & Put a long Gm Filter & 5 Qts of oil! Question Oil just shows at tip didn't these come come stock with a short oil filter so should it take 5 1/2 qts when you use the long filter? Tks Bill

Post a pic of the dipstick you have.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Everett#2390 on October 31, 2017, 09:30:17 PM
Agree with William, long filter (1 QT), and curved tube and long dipstick.
No change in 69 AIM to option Z28.
Be sure in filling filter before screwing on filter.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Solo Speed Shop on November 01, 2017, 09:40:13 PM
My Z28 had a broken tip Oil dip stick I did a lot of research & bought a nos green tip I changed the oil & Put a long Gm Filter & 5 Qts of oil! Question Oil just shows at tip didn't these come come stock with a short oil filter so should it take 5 1/2 qts when you use the long filter? Tks Bill

Post a pic of the dipstick you have.

Thanks Guys! Will work on pics when I get home! Bill
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: 68camaroz28 on November 01, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
Long style PF 29 was used in 68, and shorter PF25 used in 69 per any research I've done.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Solo Speed Shop on November 01, 2017, 10:50:15 PM
So If you use long style do you need to ad oil I remember The PF 25 also This is what I have been asking I guess next oil change I could use short & See if correct! Tks Bill
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: BULLITT65 on November 01, 2017, 11:20:51 PM
I have seen an even shorter one than the PF25, so maybe there is 3 sizes.
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: Solo Speed Shop on November 02, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
Hey Guys! Thanks for all the help! Problem solved! I got old dip stick kinda gray dot on end & checked it to new Nos green dot & both have a M stamped in exact same spot Original broke off right after M! So I was checking tube on motor & it was out of round so I put a punch in it and now perfect round I checked oil again & perfect right to full! Maybe dipstick not going all the way in & the DIPSTICK that asked all these questions maybe should have checked that first! Tks again guys! Bill
Title: Re: 1969 Z28 Oil Question
Post by: 69Z28-RS on November 03, 2017, 02:58:43 AM
I have seen an even shorter one than the PF25, so maybe there is 3 sizes.

I'm pretty sure there ARE 3 sizes (at least)...  the normal -1qt filter, then a short filter (slightly less than a quart?), and then the large 'truck type' filter..