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Title: It's Coming...
Post by: cook_dw on August 21, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
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Post by: ZLP955 on August 21, 2017, 09:12:37 PM
'Murder' backwards?
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Post by: 1968RSZ28 on August 21, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
Sounds like a Matador "Red" 1968 Z/28 is about to be restored! 8)

Paul
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 21, 2017, 11:58:34 PM
That would be awesome.
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Post by: 169INDY on August 22, 2017, 01:29:49 AM
YES!, YES!, SEY!,,,,,,,,,,,,please.

Can not wait to see more!

JIM
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Post by: rare396bronze on August 22, 2017, 03:04:30 AM
I just hope you fix that ugly looking hole on the passenger side firewall!
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Post by: cook_dw on August 22, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
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Post by: janobyte on August 22, 2017, 04:39:01 PM
Lol, looks like my shop cat. 

"My mouse! Don't, er, mess with it!



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Post by: 68Zproject on August 22, 2017, 08:06:11 PM
I have that same scene on my i phone but have no idea how you get that on here.
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 22, 2017, 08:52:53 PM
That movie is in my top 5. ( I have probably seen it over 25 times)

BUT we have yet to get confirmation from the Big Red Gorilla....

Well Cook?
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Post by: cook_dw on August 23, 2017, 01:23:26 AM
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Post by: cook_dw on August 23, 2017, 07:02:25 PM
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Post by: feastersss on August 23, 2017, 07:36:50 PM
That cat on the motor looks mean!!
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Post by: VINCE Z28 on August 24, 2017, 03:25:26 AM
Give him a break he only has three legs.... ;)
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Post by: cook_dw on August 24, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Some know and others probably don't care but I sold the blue 67 last week and its gone to its new home.  I have a few things to figure out and to finish up but yes the Matador Red 68 LOS Z will be my next project.  I am going at this project differently than most.  This will be a purpose built build and I am going to enjoy it along the way.

More pics will follow in the next few months once I pull it out of storage and bring it over to the house.



(http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1263-36272-68_z_home_1.jpg)

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Post by: Z28Project on August 24, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
Nice early 68 Z!  It looks like previous owner wanted people to know it was a Z/28.

I'll be anxious to see how your project progresses.

John
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Post by: janobyte on August 24, 2017, 03:07:52 PM
Cat has all four, just the pic.
Purpose built always has fun as the intent. They tend to look best nose up off the line, front wheels hanging...jmo.
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Post by: cook_dw on August 24, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
Cat has all four, just the pic.
Purpose built always has fun as the intent. They tend to look best nose up off the line, front wheels hanging...jmo.



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I wont give away all my secrets but the displacement ends with a 1....

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Post by: 1968RSZ28 on August 24, 2017, 07:05:01 PM
Darrell, was the Rally Sport option added or is it original?

Paul
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Post by: Jon Mello on August 24, 2017, 07:16:29 PM
I wont give away all my secrets but the displacement ends with a 1....

AMC 401  :P
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Post by: bcmiller on August 24, 2017, 07:44:11 PM
Guessing old school 301.
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Post by: cook_dw on August 24, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
Darrell, was the Rally Sport option added or is it original?

Paul

Added and will NOT be put back that way when I am done.


Mello wins.   :P

301..?...  Now is that enough cubes for a big block guy..?.?  Btw displacement is subject to change also.   ;D
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Post by: JKZ27 on August 25, 2017, 12:21:04 AM
I was gonna guess Pontiac 421.
Exciting to hear about this build Darrell. Is that a 12D?
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Post by: feastersss on August 25, 2017, 12:55:25 AM
I didn't realize it had 3 legs...poor cat, no wonder he looks mean!!
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Post by: janobyte on August 25, 2017, 12:33:26 PM
He has all four, just the shot. Earns his stay by keeping the place vermin free. Only mean to spiders, birds, chipmunks, baby rabbits, mice, other cats, and small snakes. He nailed me a few times when he was younger, crazy tom, no reason. Mellowing with age now.


You have been talking about that Z for awhile,  need to rehash the story for those fairly new to the site. Nice to see it will be coming back to life. Always a good read theses projects.
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Post by: janobyte on August 25, 2017, 12:37:16 PM
one more, then back to cook's thread, lol.
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Post by: BillOhio on August 25, 2017, 01:32:27 PM
My moms cat gets bored when they are gone so he helped when i finished my car.
I remember something about Darrell getting that car but I think we need to hear the story again
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Post by: Z10Mike on August 25, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
421 gen 1 small block maybe?  That might be enough small block for a big block guy... 
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Post by: janobyte on August 25, 2017, 02:56:43 PM
Im a fan of the bigger cube small blocks. As long as 302 is on the air cleaner, most wont know its roller cammed dart block, 427, with 2.08's. Reverse pattern, full manual 350 with a brake, moser sportsman kit in the rear, ford style bearings. Time to make a comeback at the strip...13's....lols.
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Post by: cook_dw on August 25, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Probably gonna do a 331 or an old school 301.  I might change my mind but for now that's the plan.  Light weight bits and pieces..  Maybe some trickery here and there..  As for the rest of the drivetrain.  Sticking with a Muncie.  3 pedals 4 LIFE!! and a 4.88 or 5.13 spooled 12 bolt.


  Ill re-tell the story on the car at a later date.  Have to keep everyone in suspense..
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Post by: janobyte on August 25, 2017, 08:26:53 PM
All fun brother.
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 25, 2017, 11:30:32 PM
Cool. What a fun driver in the making.

Hope the paint will just be cleaned up, up a little. Love the red paint patina
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Post by: cook_dw on August 26, 2017, 12:55:12 AM
This one won't be built to be a driver..  It'll be a racer. ;)
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 26, 2017, 03:07:16 AM
Well after viewing your videos, your hole shots can only get better...
and then you can just blame it on the car ;D
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Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 26, 2017, 04:13:10 AM
This one won't be built to be a driver..  It'll be a racer. ;)

So you'll be looking for someone to *drive* your racer for you???  :)  :)   :)
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Post by: cook_dw on August 26, 2017, 12:04:20 PM
Ouch..  When's the last time one of you guys actually finished a project and then attempted to take it down the track.?.   :o

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Btw that wasnt all driver error....  Ok yeah well most were... :-[
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 26, 2017, 02:01:43 PM
I was to lazy to go back to your other thread, but did your dad ever run that car at the track? if so what time did he run?
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Post by: janobyte on August 26, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
Think just a little friendly teasing ;)

So last week my buddy comes up to my desk and hands me his slip: .014 light, 7.98, 170+, broke out of the 8's, making rounds. Seasoned dragracer. Has been doing some 1/8th mile at other tracks, guess what next pass: lifted at the 1/8th, lost the round. We laughed, but get it? And I have quite a few tails from the strip...

I will say from experience 4 gears are fun on the street, short life span on a slicked car at the strip. Considering how quick the swap is, might wanna build an auto just for events. A trans brake really launches nice. If not interested, have the munci beefed up for racing.
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Post by: cook_dw on August 26, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
Which car Austin?  The car isn't gonna be a full out race car but it will be inspired by the drag racing of the day.  If I took everything that was said to me seriously I would never post on these forums.  I'm not mad or upset by any means but I'm also not afraid to talk shit back or speak my mind among friends.  People I don't know I usually just smile and listen.  ;D
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 26, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
I was just curious if your dad ever ran that green car at the track, and if he did what was his best E.T.
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Post by: cook_dw on August 26, 2017, 09:42:30 PM
IIRC low 12s high 11's at 1 teens to 120.
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Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 28, 2017, 11:52:00 PM
This is going to be FUN! Does it start Jan 1st?
Know if your doing it its got to be something well done. :)
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Post by: cook_dw on August 29, 2017, 01:03:55 PM
Thanks Chick.  It wont hold a candle to your butternut but it'll be the best I can do.  I plan on doing EVERYTHING myself (minus engine machining work).  It'll probably take 20 years but I'm ok with that as this car is something special to me and my father.

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Post by: cook_dw on August 29, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
Now The Story Behind The 68 Z.


     This car was brought to life on a Friday back on December 22nd of 1967.  It was shipped from the Van Nuys plant to Capitol Chevrolet in Austin, Texas.  From there the information is uncertain presently until I was able to find registration history dated 05/10/1972 were it was registered to a gentleman in the armed forces by the name Donald A Dixon when he was stationed at Kelly AFB.  At some point either before or after Mr. Dixon's purchase of the car the Camaro was traded in and sold through Armstrong Johnson which was a Ford dealership (now Lief Johnson) in Austin Texas which the car still has a dealer emblem on the tailpan.  From there the lead goes cold again until it arrives in Nashville, TN in 1975 on a used car lot where the previous own Randy bought the car and was told it was a trade-in from a sheriff. 

     Randy was a senior in high school and was excited to have the Camaro.  1975 was also the year my family moved to Lebanon, TN and immediately; being the Camaro fanatic that he was, dad spotted the Camaro and eventually got to talking to the young man about his new purchase.  Randy graduated and began his college studies at MTSU (parking sticker still on the bumper).  Realizing; like many youth, that college was not for him he had acquired a position at the United States Postal Service in Nashville and began working.  Now by late 1979 to 1980 Randy had purchased other cars as daily drivers and he decided he was going to restore the red Camaro.  One night I can remember my father getting a call from Randy and stating that he had started the disassembly of the front end and noticed someone had screwed a plate onto the firewall and when he removed it there was a big rectangular hole in the firewall!!  Randy was upset and looking for advice as to how to repair the hole.  My dad kinda chuckled and said boy that's the hole for a cowl plenum air cleaner!!  Needless to say frustration turned to excitement.  As the weeks went on Randy had pulled all the front sheet metal off and stripped the interior.  Soon Randy started to become sick and would become deathly ill for long periods of time and doctors could not figure out what was wrong.  He would spend months in the bed or in a wheelchair not able to walk or move.  My father and I would go over and check on him and shoot the shit and ask if he wanted to sell that Camaro yet.  It almost became a tradition to this.  As time went on Randy would regain his strength and have a few months of getting better and then fall back into the same sickness.  I remember one visit we went to visit and I was probably 16 or 17 at the time and we were talking cars like usual and I blurted out Ill trade you my 69 Camaro after I do the drivetrain swap for the 68 Z straight up.  Randy just smiled and said that's an interesting offer but I am gonna have to pass.  We laughed and kept talking cars and bs'ing.  Finally after almost 2 decades of being ill he finally had enough and went to another doctor and in a matter of days was diagnosed as being allergic to wheat.  It was insanity..  All that time and no one could figure it out.. 

     By this time it is 2005 and Randy is back to work and getting out.  We get the call that he has finally decided to sell.  Needless to say the following weekend the Camaro was in its new home.  Dad had wanted to see this car restored for many many years and was extremely excited to finally be able to have the opportunity to do so.  I can remember later that year in 2005 I got a call from my dad and as we talked he said I need to ask you a serious question..  I thought to myself this is odd..  I said ok whats up?  He asked, me and your mother are redoing our wills and I need to know which car you want..  I said I really dont wanna talk about it and whichever he wanted to give I was ok with..  He said no now I need to know; I wanna here you tell me what which one you want..  I said well....  If I were to choose I think you know which one I would want.  The 68 Z.  You & I wanted that car for many years and it will be amazing once its restored.  I could hear him smile through the phone as his response was I knew you would say that..  Sadly the next year he lost his life to a massive heart attack.  His main goal was to finish the 67 and sell it, the 68 Firebird and a few other cars and have the 68 L78 car (green car) and the 68 red Z.  Like I mentioned previously I just sold the blue 67 a couple weeks back and I now have the green L78 car (after traded with my older brother).  This car is more than just a car to me.  It is a symbol of the love and respect a son has for his father.  The goal is to make him proud of a car we would enjoy.  I said it before, it may take me 20 years to finish this car but it will be dedicated to my dad; Carman Cook as it was the one car that he desperately wanted to restore and never got the chance.  I will put my own twist on the restoration as I know he would approve but this one will be for him. 
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Post by: janobyte on August 30, 2017, 12:03:58 AM
It will be a good thread D. Dad is the reason I cant put the flat hood and oe exhaust on mine. Calls those builds "old lady cars" lol. Hey, I get it, he beat the pi..out of that 302, and it stayed together. 20% for me, 80% for him. Luckily didnt lose him to cancer over the winter, when its done, want to let him roll it in, open headers. No deadline for you, enjoy the build.  He does get on me how long it is taking though. I think going on 5 years now, on a car that presented great with factory paint. Try to explain its a high dollar model to me. When I want to cut corners, it gets covered up and put away. Your car will be phenom when its done ;)
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Post by: janobyte on August 30, 2017, 12:20:28 AM
Even the gears, I get: " hey, 4.88's been in the Z since 70, but it's yours, do what you want with it, frown"
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Post by: BULLITT65 on August 30, 2017, 12:54:05 AM
What are parents for ? if they can't give you guilt trips and crap, for decisions that they would have made different.... ;D