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Title: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: TuxedoblackZ on July 02, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
Hi guys! I just recently purchased a 69 Tuxedo Black Z with Deluxe Red interior from a friend of mine. I had sent an email to a gentleman here before but couldn't find the info this morning. My understanding is that this color combo is extremely rare and there are only 3 69 Camaro's currently known with Tuxedo black with red interior combo. One non Z and two Z's. Just wondering if anyone here knew of any others. Thanks!!
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 02, 2017, 03:35:49 PM
Welcome to the CRG.
How did you get the information that there are only 3 other 69 Camaros with that color combo?
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: william on July 02, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
It's unusual; there are only two others in our db. Our db is a small percentage of total 1969 Camaro production of 243,085 units so it is likely there were others.

As for "rare" there is always something else out there. There are factory black Camaros with yellow and orange hound's-tooth interiors.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: TuxedoblackZ on July 02, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
Thanks for the info! Really appreciate it!! You are right. That's what I was told. Two others in the data base. Probably more out there not known though I am sure. Does anyone know who has the other Black Z in the data base? Would love to see pics of it!!
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: TuxedoblackZ on July 02, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
The other Black Z known with Red interior? Sorry
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: 6667ss138 on July 02, 2017, 08:34:54 PM
Would love to see pictures and more info/history of your 69Z if you can. Very partial to that color combo myself. I have a 1966 Chevelle SS that I am restoring at this time with that factory color combo.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: william on July 02, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
124379L523210 was a recent no-sale at B-J CT. No confidentiality violated; the VIN is posted on their site.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: TuxedoblackZ on July 02, 2017, 11:52:23 PM
That is actually the car I bought. It didn't sell there but I bought it from a friend.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 03, 2017, 01:41:17 AM
Interesting car, I saw it had been mentioned on the CRG back in 2013 as a project.
With only the rear end possibly* to go off of , I wonder How Jerry was able to certify the car?

Glad you were able to avoid the BJ buyers fee. Looks like a fun ride with the cross ram.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: TuxedoblackZ on July 03, 2017, 03:07:13 AM
I received his full report along with it. He stated that it was in need of full restoration at that time but did authenticate the trim tag and the fact that it was a legit Tuxedo black Z28 with red interior. i have also been in contact with a few previous owners that were a great source for finding out the past history of the car. You are correct..only the original rear was present. Car has a date correct DZ motor at this time.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 03, 2017, 03:24:12 AM
I also saw in the ebay ad where the seller said he thought the car had a original M22? he said he thought h knew the where about in oregon?

Did you, your friend or any previous owner corroborate that it had a M22, or locate the original transmission?
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: TuxedoblackZ on July 03, 2017, 04:12:24 AM
It currently has an M-21. The car was in Oregon for many years though. I have quite a few past registration slips that prove that. Maybe one of the previous Oregon owners does indeed still have the original trans. Certainly worth looking into. Appreciate the info!
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: KevinW on July 03, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
Lots of discussions happening. :) 

http://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135367

http://www.camaros.net/forums/11-bench-racing/433810-interesting-69z.html
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: 69z28rsbilly on July 06, 2017, 02:58:52 PM
William how many tuxedo black cars in the data base have white Hound's-tooth interior ?
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: william on July 06, 2017, 03:28:18 PM
Six for sure; some black cars in the db do not have a trim code listed.

There was a 10 10 729 VE3 Z/28-RS here in WI many years ago. Gorgeous car!
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: ZLP955 on July 06, 2017, 09:34:21 PM
There was a 10 10 729 VE3 Z/28-RS here in WI many years ago. Gorgeous car!
That would have been a genuine head-turner, stunning combination!
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: firstgenaddict on July 27, 2017, 05:33:25 PM
Shauger's car is 10 B 729 endura isn't it?

The Black ext and blue interior combo is what I like on a Z or a SS... I have only ever seen 2  Z28 cowl tags with the combo.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: VINCE Z28 on July 29, 2017, 02:43:06 AM
Can anyone tell me if this is a early tag?
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: william on July 29, 2017, 02:51:16 AM
3rd week of '69 production at Norwood, fairly early.
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: Steve Shauger on July 29, 2017, 03:06:15 AM
Shauger's car is 10 B 729 endura isn't it?

Yes my cars a 10B 729. In fact what i like about it, is that the seats have never been recovered and absolutely like new because original owner installed clear plastic seat covers. Not the car William is referencing, because my car was alway in Buffal, Ny, prior to my purchase in 1999. It sold new at Dave Hallman Chevrolet in Hamburg, NY
Title: Re: 1969 Tuxedo Black Z w/Red Deluxe interior
Post by: firstgenaddict on July 29, 2017, 04:50:08 AM
Wow steve I had assumed your were replacement covers as they are so nice! WOW