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Title: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: DeanZ10 on May 23, 2017, 03:37:04 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Z11 on ebay, that is really a Z10. The owner "somehow" got the wrong trim tag?
Hopefully you have logged both Z11 and Z10 tags as well as the vin.  Is there any info on these cars?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/232344383198?hash=item3618cdeede:g:378AAOSw~FJZIfO1&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: bertfam on May 23, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
From the auction:

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I ALSO HAVE THE REFURBISHED TRIM TAG SHOWING IT TO BE A Z11 PACKAGE.

Should be: I ALSO HAVE THE REPRODUCTION TRIM TAG SHOWING IT TO BE A Z11 PACKAGE!

And 124379N594443 was assembled in early February, 1969. The Z11 tag shows a build date of 05A - NOR318214 - and the Z10 tag shows a build date of 04C - NOR312824 - so neither belong to that car. I would also be willing to bet the Z10 tag is a repop too.

Ed
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: 69pace on May 23, 2017, 03:55:29 PM
Tracking over at TC as well...
http://www.camaros.net/forums/11-bench-racing/431018-um-no-buyer-beware-z11-z10-ebay-offering.html#post3989274
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: VINCE Z28 on May 23, 2017, 06:12:31 PM
Here are the tags.
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: bertfam on May 23, 2017, 06:29:52 PM
Vince, that second tag you posted above is from the wrecked 2004 GTO. (removed by Kurt)

The Z10 Camaro trim tag isn't shown, but it reads:

ST69   12437  NOR312824
TR 720       50   50  PNT     
04C                     Z10

Ed
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: VINCE Z28 on May 23, 2017, 06:31:59 PM
Thanks Ed. :)
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: cook_dw on May 23, 2017, 06:37:23 PM
Id be more interested in the yellow houndstooth seats..

Repo tags are getting better....
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: KurtS on May 24, 2017, 05:30:40 AM
Agreed, the seat are notable and rarely seen.

Neither the Z10 nor Z11 tag is an original. As Ed noted, neither match the VIN.....
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: x66 714 on May 24, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
The vinyl almost looks too bright to be original covers. Maybe it's my computer. I'll post a picture later to compare....Joe
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: bertfam on May 24, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
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The vinyl almost looks too bright to be original covers. Maybe it's my computer.

Looks really bright on my monitor too! From the black head rests and the black backs, maybe he took black seats and recovered them in yellow.

Ed
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: cook_dw on May 24, 2017, 01:50:47 PM
Have you seen original yellow seats vs the repo covers?  The repos are almost mustard yellow..  Those are originals IMHO..
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: jdv69z on May 24, 2017, 01:52:52 PM
So the deck lid is painted yellow on the underside, but has a band of rust or surface rust along the outer perimeter. What's the cause of that?
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: x66 714 on May 24, 2017, 02:12:00 PM
Here's a picture of an original versus a cover purchased from CARS in 1995. The original on the right was removed from a car early in life. It will be used in mine next time around....Joe
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: bertfam on May 24, 2017, 02:17:57 PM
To me, the one on the left looks like the one in the auction, but really, since the car was built two months before the Z10 was even available, it's all (as Joey Tribbiani would say), kind of a MOO POINT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIkJ4BUChxI)!

Ed
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: jl8dale on May 24, 2017, 03:14:05 PM
As the owner of a yellow/yellow z/28 that I restored, the seat covers in the pics appear to be repro covers from PUI.
They are bright yellow and are not even close to the original yellow that came from the factory.

I took a piece of the original material under the bottom of the door jamb windlace that was never exposed to light and sent it in to a company in Canada to have custom interior dye made. I then dyed the new seat covers and the new Al Knoch door panels to restore the original look. Very time consuming but it looks great.

Here is a pic of the back seat bottom with the correct color and the top back in the PUI yellow before dying.
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: jl8dale on May 24, 2017, 03:21:21 PM
And here is the finished product.....
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 24, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
Great pics, showing the color difference. Looks like the original is more of a flat medium yellow.
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: jdv69z on May 24, 2017, 03:44:00 PM
As the owner of a yellow/yellow z/28 that I restored, the seat covers in the pics appear to be repro covers from PUI.
They are bright yellow and are not even close to the original yellow that came from the factory.

I took a piece of the original material under the bottom of the door jamb windlace that was never exposed to light and sent it in to a company in Canada to have custom interior dye made. I then dyed the new seat covers and the new Al Knoch door panels to restore the original look. Very time consuming but it looks great.

Here is a pic of the back seat bottom with the correct color and the top back in the PUI yellow before dying.


Almost looks like Daytona yellow versus Butternut Yellow.
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: x66 714 on May 24, 2017, 04:05:35 PM
On a Daytona yellow exterior & yellow interior, they're almost a match to each other if they're correct. That interior looks real good jl8dale....Joe
Title: Re: EBAY Z11.....Z10
Post by: cook_dw on May 24, 2017, 04:14:27 PM
Great pics..  Apparently my memory isnt as good as I remember..  I concede.


I just went back and looked at one of an original Z yellow interior and I am definitely wrong.  Good catch and pics..  ;D  I suck..   :(