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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: 69z27z87 on May 07, 2017, 01:38:12 AM
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Just finishing up my restoration and trying to put the new trunk mat in....original one long gone...I have not been able to find anything to tell me what cutouts i should make....One for the spare tire tie down?. One for the jack brace in the back?
I am most confused about how it was cut around the support for the trunk latch...was it cut to lay in front or did it also wrap around the back? Were there cutouts for the top of the shocks?
Anyone have an original mat they can post a pic of? Most original cars do not have pics looking toward the latch... just inward toward the front of the car...
Also, what is the best tool to cut the heavy rubber with? I think using a razor could go bad in a hurry......
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Attached a picture of an NOS mat. I've sold his one and I have a used original which is exactly the same size and shape. The only difference I could see between the NOS and used original is cutting for the tire hook, they are definitely the same around the latch support.
Let me know if you need other pics, I'm no sure this answered your question.
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Thanks..!!!.that helps a lot....!
It looks like it is cut in front of the latch support only and does not go around it like a 67-68.
Also, it looks like it does not go up on the wheel wells or over the top of the shocks. It also doesn't look like it goes over the "bumps" in the back of the trunk....
Do you have a shot of an original one in the trunk so I can see exactly where it lies?
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Attached is a photo of my original (laying out on the floor, not in my trunk), but you can see the cutouts from the factory...
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interesting differences between assembly line and NOS, thanks Gary, and Abide
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What is the cut slot on the left side? Any markings on the back side?
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Thanks..!!!.that helps a lot....!
It looks like it is cut in front of the latch support only and does not go around it like a 67-68.
Also, it looks like it does not go up on the wheel wells or over the top of the shocks. It also doesn't look like it goes over the "bumps" in the back of the trunk....
Do you have a shot of an original one in the trunk so I can see exactly where it lies?
Do these help you? Are you trying to cut a reproduction mat to fit like an original? I haven't found a decent repro.
Andy
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Please email if you need specific pics.
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Yes, I am trying to cut my repro to properly fit the trunk the way the originals did.... those pics help a lot.... especially around the back.....
Now to figure out how to cut that thick mat without putting a razor through my hand (again).
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There were originally 12 trunk mats used in the first generation Camaro!
7663177 - 1967 Coupe without N65
7728644 - 1967 Coupe with N65
7689199 - 1967 Convertible without N65
7728646 - 1967 Convertible with N65
7779677 - 1968 Coupe without N65
7779681 - 1968 Coupe with N65
7779679 - 1968 Convertible without N65
7779683 - 1968 Convertible with N65
8738793 - 1969 Coupe without N65
8738795 - 1969 Coupe with N65
8738794 - 1969 Convertible without N65
8738796 - 1969 Convertible with N65
Each had its own configuration for cut-outs, depth, overhang, etc... ALL of them had been discontinued by the early 1970's but I can remember walking into my Chevrolet dealer in early 1981 and they still had ONE on the books under a different part number. It was a "catch all" for the Camaro and Nova. It fit, but you had to hack the he!! out of it!!
Ed
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Seems like you could lay an original on top of a reproduction, use a marker, outline it. And then use some wood base (1/2 x 3) lay it on the lines and score it with a razor blade a couple of times with some plywood underneath.
Couldn't be much harder than putting torchdown on roofs, where we cut it to go around sky lights and AC units.
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Here a couple pics I had on my computer of the mat from my 08C Z/28.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/69%20Z28/100_0403.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/69%20Z28/100_0402.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/69%20Z28/100_0401.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/69%20Z28/100_0400.jpg)
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I purchased a reproduction a few years ago, but when it arrived.. it was *nothing* like the original (not the material, the thickness, nothing!).. so I returned it..
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what is the hole in the left side of your original mat for Gary?
Also: Andy it looks like you are running a rubber sleeve around your jack and tire iron, I thought only Pontiacs had the rubber sleeve?
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Attached is a photo of my original (laying out on the floor, not in my trunk), but you can see the cutouts from the factory...
what is the hole in the left side of your original mat for Gary?
Also: Andy it looks like you are running a rubber sleeve around your jack and tire iron, I thought only Pontiacs had the rubber sleeve?
What is the cut slot on the left side? Any markings on the back side?
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Attached is a photo of my original (laying out on the floor, not in my trunk), but you can see the cutouts from the factory...
what is the hole in the left side of your original mat for Gary?
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What is the cut slot on the left side? Any markings on the back side?
OK Darrell... just for you.... :)
I've always believed this trunk mat was original to my Z28/RS (since I purchased it in April '76), but I don't *know* this for certain. When I traded for it, the car was original in all respects and had been used for a bit over 6 yrs and had nearly 70K miles on it. A policeman in Huntsville owned it for a year or so, then traded it in, then a man bought it for his daughter's 16th birthday. She had it until Feb/March of '76 and sold it to *another policeman*. He had it for only a few weeks before I traded him my '68 Z28 for it.
Yes, there is a number printed on the backside (see photo attached). I've posted a photo of that here previously, and no I don't *know* this is a factory '69 Camaro trunkmat, but it *appeared to be so in '76* and I still have no better information. Nor do I know what that cutout is for... :)
Also attached are a couple of photos with the mat laying in the trunk. Note: This mat was well used and torn in several places when I purchased it. The trunk wasn't 'used' much in the period between '76 and '80 when I drove the car irregularly. It's been stored since, so the great majority of wear/tear in the mat was done before 1976.
I would love to compare this mat to 'known' original Camaro mats from the late '69 time frame (Sept 1969). If I knew it wasn't original, I'd toss it because the condition is not great and I've 'taped' the backside of several tears in it...
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some more photos of the trunk mat lying in the trunk....
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and one more....
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Also: Andy it looks like you are running a rubber sleeve around your jack and tire iron, I thought only Pontiacs had the rubber sleeve?
I have no idea if these straps are the correct ones. The AIM shows two straps on UPC 10 A2. But I have a space saver, and the AIM doesn't show straps for N65. So this is wrong regardless. Good thing I didn't show you pictures of the rest of my trunk...
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Hahaha. Sorry force of habit. I was on a pontiac site looking at spare tire hooks, and noticed the bands, or sleave for the jack and tire iron, and someone let me know it was a pontiac only thing for a while. Maybe in the 70's chevrolet started using them as well.
Your whole car is A OK in my book. I am hoping you out pics of the interior, I wanted to see that accessory tach
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Hahaha. Sorry force of habit. I was on a pontiac site looking at spare tire hooks, and noticed the bands, or sleave for the jack and tire iron, and someone let me know it was a pontiac only thing for a while. Maybe in the 70's chevrolet started using them as well.
Your whole car is A OK in my book. I am hoping you out pics of the interior, I wanted to see that accessory tach
If I can get my lazy butt to take some decent pics, I'll submit them for the cover. But there are so many little things that are unfinished or missing (e.g. my lost 290 horn) that I will probably wait. I can send you pics of the accessory tach?
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Your car would be a great cover story car. I am sure there are many more guys than just me that would love to see more pics of your car, including that rarely seen tach. You can just post a pic of the tach in your thread. thanks! :)
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Also: Andy it looks like you are running a rubber sleeve around your jack and tire iron, I thought only Pontiacs had the rubber sleeve?
The AIM shows two straps on UPC 10 A2.
Yes, correct for coupes.
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IS there a sleeve for pontiacs then? I could have sworn I saw something different on a firebird I thought?
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Some other brands used a single long rubber sleeve, rather than the 2 short ones referred to above for Camaro coupes.
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So that's how my lug wrench is supposed to held in place. I don't have the rubber sleeve, and I've wondered how to keep the wrench from moving around.
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I purchased a reproduction a few years ago, but when it arrived.. it was *nothing* like the original (not the material, the thickness, nothing!).. so I returned it..
Gary did you ever find a reproduction mat that was very similar ? Or has anyone had a good experience with any repro's at all ? and if so who ?
Thanks
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Is this close to the design on the material?
http://hhclassic.com/i-13697795-trunk-mat.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2vfppKH60wIVBjRpCh1pZARQEAQYASABEgIP_fD_BwE (http://hhclassic.com/i-13697795-trunk-mat.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2vfppKH60wIVBjRpCh1pZARQEAQYASABEgIP_fD_BwE)
(http://hhclassic.com/images/F77069560.jpg)