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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: william on April 05, 2017, 11:39:53 PM

Title: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: william on April 05, 2017, 11:39:53 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/282422985864?hash=item41c1b8c488:g:wggAAOSwB-1Y5WPo&vxp=mtr

non-OE engine

N671401
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: BillOhio on April 06, 2017, 12:53:29 AM
A lot of money for a car that's not very nice underneath. Looks like transmission is leaking, paints coming off floor and other things. Geez
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 06, 2017, 03:08:08 AM
 They say 69 correctly dated block, (0811 DZ I assume), guess they got lucky finding one right before the car was built.(8/15)
Other than them saying it is correctly dated, what else tipped you off William?
I am with you on the fake tag, and the way the rest of the car was put together. (wrong drivers side door)

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: x66 714 on April 06, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
Wrong trunk lid also....Joe
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: abiddle on April 06, 2017, 12:19:53 PM
Ok I think I finally figured out the fake tags, I can find the differences now. What's wrong with the door and the trunk? I'm trying to learn the larger picture pieces and not just the small stuff.

Thanks - Andy
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: cook_dw on April 06, 2017, 12:37:25 PM
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12390.0;all (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12390.0;all)

Also if you still have your original lid please add the info to that thread so I can add it to the spreadsheet.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: jdv69z on April 06, 2017, 01:27:50 PM
HaHa!! I usually cannot spot these fake tags, but for once, I get it.  :)
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: william on April 06, 2017, 01:41:57 PM
They say 69 correctly dated block, (0811 DZ I assume), guess they got lucky finding one right before the car was built.(8/15)
Other than them saying it is correctly dated, what else tipped you off William?
I am with you on the fake tag, and the way the rest of the car was put together. (wrong drivers side door)

I had info on it back to 2002; had an April engine at that time.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 06, 2017, 02:12:43 PM
Gotcha, thanks
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 06, 2017, 03:05:29 PM
124379N671401

Paul
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: Petes L48 on April 06, 2017, 09:40:31 PM
Is that a 67 style oil canister/element painted white that I'm seeing?  Must be a really early 69 block. 
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: bertfam on April 06, 2017, 09:45:45 PM
Quote
Is that a 67 style oil canister/element painted white that I'm seeing?

No, it's a K&N oil filter. Their filters are designed so you can use a socket to unscrew them.

Ed
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 07, 2017, 06:48:55 AM
Andy, the drivers door is incorrect because it does to have the ribs on the end of the door for the blue VIN sticker that they started using for 69 Camaros delivered after August of 69. I think the ribs on the door started in July, but the earliest blue stickers were on 08E cars.
( I am still waiting to see any earlier examples....)
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: cook_dw on April 07, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Ok...  After a little digging I know this car..  It has actually been at my parents house back over 20 years ago..  FYI he (my father) did not do anything to the car.  It was a guy that was trying to resolve a vibration problem and heard about my father being a Camaro guy.  Btw that was not the current owner.  It was the previous owner before current.  Current owner is known also. 
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 07, 2017, 05:56:53 PM
So what did this car start out as?what color?  I am guessing not a Z?
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: cook_dw on April 07, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Glacier and as far back as anyone remembers its always been claimed to have been a Z.  I cant remember a year ago much less 20 plus years ago...  Previous owner replaced the blk deluxe with the current houndstooth before current owner purchased the car.  It more than likely had that tag on it previous to any of us (Mid TN clan) knew of the car.  Knowledge of the car goes back roughly 30 yrs.  For the record there was another 69 Z that was in Lebanon but it was a Dusk Blue and that owner at that time has now passed.
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 08, 2017, 01:02:30 AM
SO if it was a Z, why the fake tag? any ideas?
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on April 08, 2017, 01:28:24 AM
No telling... it's only 400 & change units before my 08C Z
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: abiddle on April 08, 2017, 08:26:05 AM
Andy, the drivers door is incorrect because it does to have the ribs on the end of the door for the blue VIN sticker that they started using for 69 Camaros delivered after August of 69. I think the ribs on the door started in July, but the earliest blue stickers were on 08E cars.
( I am still waiting to see any earlier examples....)

Well I learn something every day. I've known my drivers door wasn't original by the inside paint and its the only glass dated too late. Now I know what the ribs are for. I wish I had known oh about a few months ago before paint. Bummer, but glad I know. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: vtfb68 on April 08, 2017, 03:17:23 PM
Darrell,
  In regards to reply #15, does this mean that the repo tag has been on this car for over thirty years?
     VT
Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...repro tag
Post by: cook_dw on April 08, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
I can not confirm that.  All I meant was the car has been known for roughly 30 years and was always said and appeared as a Z.  Although that doesn't mean much.  Regardless the trim tag is a huge red flag regardless what it was originally.