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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: hihorse on April 03, 2017, 05:13:41 PM

Title: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 03, 2017, 05:13:41 PM
Have a 174 carrier dated B 22 10 on the ring gear  flange. What year is "10"
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bertfam on April 04, 2017, 08:33:32 PM
Eaton's still in business so I'm guessing 2010?

Ed
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: KurtS on April 05, 2017, 12:40:07 AM
10 or 70?
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 05, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
Definitely 10
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 05, 2017, 02:20:41 AM
here's another one with '10' in the year position.  E  28  10
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bertfam on April 05, 2017, 02:36:46 AM
That appears to be too far away to be part of the date code. Can you take a picture of the B-22 or E-28?

Ed
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 05, 2017, 12:46:11 PM
ones i've seen are spaced out
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bertfam on April 05, 2017, 01:41:38 PM
In that case, 2010 is the only thing I can think of.

Ed
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 05, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Owner of one of units says "it was approx 15 to 20 years ago that i pulled it out of either a 69 camaro or 68 chevrlle had bought "
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bertfam on April 05, 2017, 06:14:15 PM
Then it would be best for you to contact Eaton and find out what they have to say. Their toll free number is 800-386-1911

Ed
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on April 05, 2017, 06:59:32 PM
Date really doesn't matter on a posi unit, except maybe in a COPO. It's not judged at events.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: HawkX66 on April 05, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
Here's what an actual 69 gear set date code looks like. This one is mine:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2926/33017478194_2e70d92e34.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SiDcXq)
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 06, 2017, 02:10:18 AM
What's assembly date of posi
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: HawkX66 on April 06, 2017, 11:50:40 AM
What's assembly date of posi
Are you asking what the assembly date is on my posi? 8/69 I "think" the day is 17. My car's build date is 8/22/69. The 13 & 43 are the # of teeth. 43/13=3.31 gears which is what a BS coded rear end is.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: cook_dw on April 06, 2017, 04:42:00 PM
Original poster was asking about the posi unit stampings...  NOT the gear stampings..
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: HawkX66 on April 06, 2017, 05:15:18 PM
What's assembly date of posi

Original poster was asking about the posi unit stampings...  NOT the gear stampings..
Ah. If that's the case, I couldn't tell you. I don't think it was stamped, otherwise I would have taken a pic of it. I could have missed it though.
 Now that I'm reading it a little closer, my guess is he was asking me for the date the whole posi rear end was assembled. If so... 8/20/69

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5688/30954383190_a6e0fe4831.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PakiFU)
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 21, 2018, 02:35:39 PM
Dave,
Stamping on right tube is assembly of Diff. Was looking for assembly date of posi carrier which is located on flange that ring gear is bolted to.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on April 21, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
I am not sure they all were stamped with a date.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bertfam on April 21, 2018, 06:08:23 PM
Here's a 2 series and a 3 series posi carrier I have. E 10 8, and J 7 4 (or J 7 A, hard to tell).

Ed
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on April 21, 2018, 07:27:09 PM
The only one I have easy access to here is a 3 series stamped F 2 J

I had a 4 series a while back that was just stamped 8

Honestly unless you have a COPO car, who cares about the date? Itís not going to be judged or checked unless it needs to be verified as a 4 series with correct COPO internals, which are different than regular posi internals. Now having correctly dated gears (and housing) IS important in my mind. Just my 2 cents. 

Itís ok to be mindful of the numbers, just donít fall over the edge to OCD.  :)
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on April 21, 2018, 08:32:39 PM
And I just chatted with a person that deals with rear end internals every day for his business.

With the new Eaton style posi units being sold today, the internals and cases are a lot stronger than the originals.  Prices on the new ones are typically the same or less than an old rebuilt unit.  Just FYI.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bertfam on April 21, 2018, 11:36:29 PM
That E 10 8 posi I posted above could be an E 10 B. Hard to tell.

Ed
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: hihorse on April 25, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
The only one I have easy access to here is a 3 series stamped F 2 J

I had a 4 series a while back that was just stamped 8

Honestly unless you have a COPO car, who cares about the date? Itís not going to be judged or checked unless it needs to be verified as a 4 series with correct COPO internals, which are different than regular posi internals. Now having correctly dated gears (and housing) IS important in my mind. Just my 2 cents. 

Itís ok to be mindful of the numbers, just donít fall over the edge to OCD.  :)
All assembly dates including one Eaton stamped on the posi carriers is important to me whether car is being judged or not.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on April 25, 2018, 06:05:15 PM
And thatís your choice. Whatever...

I mean either itís either original to the car or not.

Mine isnít - because it was originally a 3.73 open rear end.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on June 07, 2018, 11:33:30 PM
I MAY have an answer on the stamped code for the late 60s.  I have no confirmation on this, just speculation.

The stamped assembly date code can either be on the edge of the ring gear flange, or on the end (see pic below of one I have from a Chevelle).  The stamped format of the digits is month, day, year.  Month and year are letters with just the last digit of the year.  I need to figure out which letter was not used for sure, but it is most likely the I, which is not used for other stamped dates (such as on distributors).

The one attached is H24H - which COULD be August 24, 1968.

For the year 1969, the year stamp would be a J (the letter). I am fairly certain that J in the year position corresponds to a 9. 

In the pic I posted, it has a normal casting date F 14 7 which is June 14, 1967.  The casting date on some units may only have the Julian date (day of the year 1 to 365).  I do not know why the casting date and assembly date would be so far apart, it seems unusual.

(Edited)
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on June 08, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Typically things like distributors that are date stamped use the following (I is not used for month).
A for January
B for February
C for March
D for April
E for May
F for June
G for July
H for August
J for September
K for October
L for November
M for December

For the year
A - 1
B - 2
C - 3
D - 4
E - 5
F - 6
G - 7
H - 8
J - 9
K - 0
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on June 08, 2018, 10:19:32 PM
If anyone has an original please post the date stamp on the carrier, axle housing assembly date and date of the vehicle assembly.  Thanks.

I may start a thread in Research topics.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: janobyte on June 08, 2018, 10:50:11 PM
F227 is the code on my carrier. June 22nd, 67? Still have original ring and pinion packed away. Can post those dates if anybody is interested.

Somebody just pm'd a few weeks ago asking me about the casting date on the carrier.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: janobyte on June 08, 2018, 11:00:30 PM
And I just chatted with a person that deals with rear end internals every day for his business.

With the new Eaton style posi units being sold today, the internals and cases are a lot stronger than the originals.  Prices on the new ones are typically the same or less than an old rebuilt unit.  Just FYI.


Yup. Really the way to fly is a bolt in 9" with a nodular iron third member.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: janobyte on June 08, 2018, 11:11:22 PM
BV 0424 G1 axle tube. Car is a 04D build.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: janobyte on June 09, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
Sorry, thought you were looking for the casting date on the housing.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on June 09, 2018, 12:16:57 PM
F227 is the code on my carrier. June 22nd, 67? Still have original ring and pinion packed away. Can post those dates if anybody is interested.

Somebody just pm'd a few weeks ago asking me about the casting date on the carrier.

Does it have a date code stamped on the ring gear flange or on the area shown above?
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: janobyte on June 09, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
Screwed up, thought you were looking for cast date on carrier housing, not the posi unit. Re-read this AM. All buttoned up now. Never really came up before, didnt think to doc when it was spread apart.
Title: Re: Eaton Posi Date
Post by: bcmiller on June 09, 2018, 04:15:07 PM
Ok - no problem.