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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: KurtS on March 07, 2017, 06:29:49 PM

Title: Horns
Post by: KurtS on March 07, 2017, 06:29:49 PM
We added some info on horns to the site.
http://www.camaros.org/underhood.shtml#horns
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 07, 2017, 07:47:03 PM
Wow, that article "blew" me away! :)

Paul
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: cook_dw on March 07, 2017, 08:50:45 PM
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Title: Re: Horns
Post by: 69Z28-RS on March 07, 2017, 10:33:18 PM
Very nice entry on horns (and batteries)..  both seemed to be very complete.
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 07, 2017, 10:45:15 PM
Very nice entry on horns (and batteries)..  both seemed to be very complete.

Yup, I got a "charge" out of the battery info! :D

Paul
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: 69Z28-RS on March 07, 2017, 11:49:50 PM
Paul?  Did you get charged up..  or blown..  first?   :)
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: ko-lek-tor on March 08, 2017, 12:18:17 AM
Is not the fastener used to mount the horns somewhat unique? And should/could that information, if this is true, be added?
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: KevinW on March 08, 2017, 12:40:40 PM
Kurt, great write up as usual! thanks

Bentley, per the AIM, the 69 horn bolt is the 3846202, the same captured washer bolt used in various fender locations, not rare :)  Can't say about 67& 68. 
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: z28z11 on March 08, 2017, 01:59:44 PM
Kurt, great write up as usual! thanks

Bentley, per the AIM, the 69 horn bolt is the 3846202, the same captured washer bolt used in various fender locations, not rare :)  Can't say about 67& 68. 

I wonder if there are two part numbers involved - my original captured washers have a "serrated" bottom to them, which I thought was unique to the horn assembly - I have seen both, often wondered which was correct. Informal poll ?

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: cook_dw on March 08, 2017, 03:05:46 PM
Kurt, great write up as usual! thanks

Bentley, per the AIM, the 69 horn bolt is the 3846202, the same captured washer bolt used in various fender locations, not rare :)  Can't say about 67& 68. 


Seems like I remember a captured serrated washer as well on a couple other cars... 

I wonder if there are two part numbers involved - my original captured washers have a "serrated" bottom to them, which I thought was unique to the horn assembly - I have seen both, often wondered which was correct. Informal poll ?

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: bertfam on March 08, 2017, 03:11:59 PM
1967 and 1968 used 3853846 which had the "toothed" washer (top picture). 1969 used the 3846202 which had the "smooth" washer (bottom picture).

Ed
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: ZLP955 on March 08, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
The 69 AIM notes the left side horn uses the 'prod. screw (catch asm to hood lock support asm)' and the right side horn uses 3846202, which has a note (4) against it which in the revision history is dated 10-28-68 stating 'was 3853846'. So the right side fastener is as Ed's numbers/pictures above.
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: bertfam on March 08, 2017, 08:18:09 PM
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The 69 AIM notes the left side horn uses the 'prod. screw (catch asm to hood lock support asm)'

Same basic screw, just without any captured washer.

Ed
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: ZLP955 on March 08, 2017, 11:17:40 PM
Yes, very similar but with integral washer.
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Post by: z28z11 on March 09, 2017, 02:46:43 AM
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The 69 AIM notes the left side horn uses the 'prod. screw (catch asm to hood lock support asm)'

Same basic screw, just without any captured washer.

Ed


Ed/Tim,

Thanks for clearing that up. I looked at my originals on the 01C X77, they are correct, it's the Pace Car that is wrong. It had incorrect horns on it when I bought it in '94, I replaced the horns with the right part #s and dates, but I picked the wrong bolts (68's) out of spares when I reassembled them. I'll switch it back based on this -

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: Dusk Blue Z on March 09, 2017, 03:03:37 PM
I lost 5 points in Legends Judging in 2014 because I didn't have the two 3853846 bolts holding on my horns in my 05A 69 Z. I wonder if there is an appeal process.
Mike 
Title: Re: Horns
Post by: m22mike on March 09, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
I lost 5 points in Legends Judging in 2014 because I didn't have the two 3853846 bolts holding on my horns in my 05A 69 Z. I wonder if there is an appeal process.
Mike 

I think they have had that wrong for a long time, I am  dummy and  I could figure that out from the A I M removal revision date of 10/68. But keep in mind there are early 69's that have the bright zinc toothed bolts.  And original horns on those cars would have the tooth marks from those bolts.

Mike