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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: urayo18 on November 07, 2016, 01:47:03 PM

Title: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 07, 2016, 01:47:03 PM
This week at the local Museum Of Transportation in Puerto Rico started a Camaro exhibition showcasing various models from 1st Generation until the 5th Generation. There is a 1969 Z/28 Camaro that's also a Z10 with a Cross Ram carburetor. Is there any information about this car? Did the Z/28 also include the Z10 option?

Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 07, 2016, 01:50:43 PM
A closer picture
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: bertfam on November 07, 2016, 03:06:43 PM
First, welcome to the group. It's nice to have someone from Puerto Rico join up!

Second, regarding your question, the Z10 was a Pace Car replica, but in a Coupe configuration instead of the normal Convertible. It included (among other things) the SS package and the Rally Sport package, but it wasn't available with the Z28. The car you show above shows Z28 emblems so it's not an SS, and it doesn't have the Rally Sport option, so it isn't a Z10 unless the Z28 emblems have been added and the Rally Sport components removed. Did you get a picture of the trim tag on the firewall? Or the VIN? These will give us more info.

And you can read more about the Z10 package HERE (http://www.camaros.org/69pacer.shtml#Z10).

Ed
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: KurtS on November 07, 2016, 04:16:40 PM
Yup, as it sits, it can't be. Those options are in conflict.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 07, 2016, 08:57:10 PM
Thanks for answering!

VIN number i 124379N658046.

I'll get a picture of the cowl tag once I visit the museum this Wednesday.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: Mark on November 08, 2016, 11:49:36 PM
Besides the options being in conflict, the VIN is also outside the date range that Z10's were available.  Could be a special order paint color Z28 but that's about it.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 09, 2016, 10:28:12 PM
How come? It corresponds to a 1969 model.


Car also has a National 1st Prize of the AACA, here's a picture of it. Tomorrow I'll check the cowl tag.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 09, 2016, 10:29:07 PM
Closer look
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: maroman on November 09, 2016, 11:25:44 PM
Sorry to be the one to say it but the AACA badge doesn't mean much. By their rules ANY option can be added that was available in the year of production. By rights they SHOULD have known a Z-28 could not be a pace car but I doubt they did. Maybe Lakehome can explain it better.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 10, 2016, 12:42:21 AM
The Z11 is the Pace Car.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: urayo18 on November 10, 2016, 12:45:09 AM
I still have to get the picture of the cowl tag. But what I meant, and you guys can correct me on this, that it wouldn't have the AACA badge if it wasn't an original.

Story is that this car was shipped to Puerto Rico by an army soldier and it's one of only three. That's what they said.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: KurtS on November 10, 2016, 02:58:20 AM
Nope. AACA doesn't mean anything about originality.
As pictured, it was never made.  Stripes on a Z were either white or black.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: bcmiller on November 29, 2016, 01:47:25 AM
urayo18,

Any additional information?
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: Charley on December 01, 2016, 02:21:42 AM
Quote from: KurtS on November 10, 2016, 02:58:20 AM
Nope. AACA doesn't mean anything about originality.
As pictured, it was never made.  Stripes on a Z were either white or black.
Or red.
Title: Re: Can this be a real Z10 Z/28???
Post by: KurtS on December 02, 2016, 09:31:05 AM
Yup. One known red striped car.