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Title: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 68rsssrag on January 11, 2007, 05:08:46 AM
Does anyone have experience with the OER repro mirror for 1968 ?

I had a devil of a time with the orig. GM interior mount....wrong shape on the remote head casting of the repro mirror. I fixed this with minor filing.

Now I notice the mirror panel itself seems too loose. This is a showstopper.

Arno
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on January 11, 2007, 05:20:30 AM
No experience installing one, but I was at Classic Industries a few months ago and noticed there aren't any drain holes! I think that's probably going to be the major show stopper here.

Ed
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 68rsssrag on February 05, 2007, 05:54:00 AM

Well I'm on mirror #2 and have the same problem. The glass is loose in the housing at all posistions. Seems OER has no known phone number for customer service. I emailed their general mailbox via their website to see if they have a solution. Anyone know how to contact OER?

I'll ask about the drain holes but i have a broken original and i don't see where they drain either.

Arno
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 05, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
Hi Arno -

   I just looked at the original remote mirror on my '68 Z/28.  There are two drain holes on the bottom of the mirror housing on either end.  These two drain holes are very close to the back of the mirror housing.  A 1/8" drill bit fits snug in these holes.  Hope this info helps.

Paul    
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: Jerry@CHP on February 05, 2007, 05:11:51 PM
If you're buying a new side view mirror, buy it from Paragon Reproductions, they are the best and they will date them for you!  They are tight so the mirror will not blow down out of adjustment while driving down the road.

Jerry
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on February 05, 2007, 05:48:28 PM
68's have the style that have two small (about 1/8" in diameter) drain holes on the bottom of the mirror housing, one on each side (see the top picture). Starting in late 68 (I'm not exactly sure of the exact date) Donnely changed the housing. It now had a single "oblong" 1/2" slot on the bottom, center of the mirror (see lower picture). I've verified this on two seperate mirrors, both dated 7DMI8. One had the "holes" and the other had the "slot"! So sometime in July 68, the change was made. As this is VERY late for 68 cars, I can't be sure if ANY 68's came with the newer ("slot") style, but I would imagine some very early 69's came with the older ("Two hole") style. Also note that 68's have an "Intermediate" Adjusting Ring. Since this same mirror was used on all Chevrolet body styles, the assembly could be adjusted for different mountings. Loosen the screw, adjust the ring and tighten the screw. In 69, Chevrolet went to different mirrors for different models,  therefore no adjusting ring was necessary.

Ed

1968 (All Body Styles) Remote Mirror with the (2) 1/8" Drain Holes and the Intermediate Adjusting Ring:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/bertfam/68remote.jpg)


1969 Camaro only Remote Mirror with the 1/2" oblong slot and no Intermediate Adjusting Ring:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/bertfam/69remote.jpg)
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 05, 2007, 06:40:54 PM
Hi Ed -

   Wow!  Thanks for the detailed info and photos.  I had to go look at my mirror again after reading your post and yes there is a date code on mine (I never noticed it   :-[ ).  The code on mine is:

12-DMI-7

Based on your example above my date code translates to December 1967. Is that correct?

Paul    
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on February 05, 2007, 06:43:25 PM
Paul,

Yup. December, 1967. I've seen a lot of Remote Mirrors with that date. Donnely must have made a BIG batch that month!!

 ;)

Ed
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 06, 2007, 02:31:00 AM
Thanks Ed!   :)

Paul
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 68rsssrag on February 07, 2007, 05:14:40 AM
Thanks for the Paragon lead Jerry.

The photos were very useful.

Arno
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 68rsssrag on February 09, 2007, 05:19:56 AM
Jerry

Paragon only carries the regular O/S mirror not the remote version.

Arno
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 09, 2007, 09:03:11 PM
Hey Arno -

   There is a NOS one that "looks" like the one on my car, although the knob on the remote is different than mine and I can't see which type of drain hole(s) it has.  Here's the eBay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/68-69-CAMARO-NOVA-CHEVELLE-SS-Z28-NOS-MIRROR-COPO-YENKO_W0QQitemZ260084432147QQihZ016QQcategoryZ140707QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Paul  
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 09, 2007, 09:18:26 PM
Arno -

   I just found another NOS one that "looks" like mine.  This one has the same remote knob as mine, but the escutcheon in which the knob is mounted is different than mine (it's probably correct for a Pontiac).  I can't see the drain hole(s) on this unit either.  Here's the link on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Pontiac-68-69-70-71-72-Chevelle-Camaro-Nova-F-Bird_W0QQitemZ220080437173QQihZ012QQcategoryZ33649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hope this helps.   :)

Paul
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on February 09, 2007, 10:02:51 PM
That first one is a 69 Mirror and the 2nd one I can't find in my books, although I DID find the bezel. It was used on the 69 Corvair with Remote Mirror.

Ed


Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 09, 2007, 11:26:37 PM
Hi Ed -

   What book are you finding this information in and where can I get one?   ???

Paul
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on February 09, 2007, 11:51:55 PM
Paul, read THIS (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=40.0). Especially the part regarding the P&A Manuals (Number 1, 2 and 3 under the "VERY difficult to find section. These are what you need to find this obscure stuff!!

Ed
 
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 68rsssrag on March 18, 2007, 11:14:05 PM
I got repro mirror #2 and it has the same problem....and no drain holes.

Does antone have a contact for OER that i can call. They have no info on the box or website.
Arno
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: camaromikey on March 19, 2007, 04:33:47 PM
does anyone have the correct orignnal number for the 69 remote mirror. i brought one but i don't think its right. when i mounted it with its orignnal hardware it sat at an angle.
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on March 19, 2007, 06:46:21 PM
Arno, no phone number, just the email from their site:

info@oerparts.com

camaromikey, the original 69 Camaro Remote Mirror part number was 3957203.

Ed
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: camaromikey on March 20, 2007, 03:34:31 AM
where are the numbers located. the mirror face has 9-dmi-9. the head has 14-2269 inside, and base has 15-2270 inside the base. also the bezal has 3958372 on it.
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on March 20, 2007, 04:30:28 AM
camaromikey, the part number (3957203) won't be found on the mirror. However, 9-DMI-9 indicates a date code of September, 1969. 14-2269 and 15-2270 I believe, are the correct casting numbers for a 69 Remote Mirror base and head, and 3958372 is the correct bezel for a 69 Camaro with Standard Interior. HOWEVER, these same numbers may have been used on other models and/or years as well. I know for sure the Bezel was also used on the 70 Chevelle, so you might have a mirror for that car. My books don't go up that far, so maybe someone else can give you more info.

You do know that the mirror can be adjusted, right? Loosen the screw on the back and adjust as necessary. If it's still wrong after that, you probably have the wrong mirror.

Ed
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: 68rsssrag on March 20, 2007, 05:04:35 AM
Ed

I tried that email twice with no response. Suggests they are not getting feedback that could help improve the product.

Too bad since they seem to have some good stuff like their rubber bumpers.

Arno
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: camaromikey on March 20, 2007, 06:34:35 AM
this one has no adjustment, the head has to pegs that line up with slots in the base. i think thats what i have is one for an impala or chevelle. its a bummer becuase its in perfect shape. almost no pitting. I was just hoping i was doing something wrong. thanks
Title: Re: 68 remote outside mirror
Post by: bertfam on March 20, 2007, 02:04:17 PM
OOPS! Yeah, your're right. I was thinking 68. (That one's adjustable.) Sorry about that.

Ed