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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: ko-lek-tor on October 27, 2016, 02:08:59 AM

Title: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: ko-lek-tor on October 27, 2016, 02:08:59 AM
Original paint. Looks like it has painted with the gun twice? 2 layers and the drip runs would suggest the lid was painted upside down off the car or the runs occurred after lid was closed? 1st pic is underside of lid near latch. 2nd pic shows hinge area detail.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: BULLITT65 on October 27, 2016, 05:38:52 AM
hard to tell with the pics so close up.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: ko-lek-tor on October 27, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
hard to tell with the pics so close up.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean? Hard to tell that it is a deck lid? Take my word, it is. Hard to tell if it is original paint? Take my word, it is. Picture opening a trunk lid, looking up at the underside area where the latch is located. Now with the lid in the open position the runs would be going up hill. I offered a picture of the hinge area as further proof that the paint is original. Also thought that the hinge detail is a good reference pic for restorers as it can be seen that the area just behind where the hinge mounts is void of paint. Picture trying to paint the area just in front of the hinge ( between hinge and front lip) with lid mounted and how you could not get paint in that area pointed out. So we know lids were mounted when painted. This lid is evident of that fact. The lid was in the up position when painted. So, why are the runs going toward the back edge instead of following gravity and going down the lid? Understand?
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: X33RS on October 27, 2016, 12:51:53 PM
I do see the back edge of decklids void of paint quite often just as you describe.  I also find this on the bottom of the doors.  I've seen this on many fords and GM products.  Also when I remove the items there is no paint present behind the hinges on decklids and doors, showing that they were in fact painted while bolted on the car.

I can't tell which direction your paint is running with the close up pic, I think that is what Bullitt is trying to describe??
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: ko-lek-tor on October 27, 2016, 01:32:00 PM
"I can't tell which direction your paint is running with the close up pic, I think that is what Bullitt is trying to describe??"


Apologies to those that are visually challenged. Maybe this will help?
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: 69Z28-RS on October 27, 2016, 01:56:41 PM
For those who can't remember the time...  '1969 was a time of suspended gravitational attraction, and sometimes even reversed directional pull...  some people found themselves 'floating away' or flying off into space even! :) :)

This is only what I've heard or been told, never experienced any of that myself!  :)
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: bcmiller on October 27, 2016, 02:31:52 PM
It would be tough to prove that as original paint.  Not saying it is or isn't.

But there were a lot of cars that were soda blasted in the 80s for restoration.

It doesn't make sense to me why that paint is running in that direction.  Unless it was off the car and "touched up" at some time.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: BULLITT65 on October 27, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
thanks Larry. Yes it was so close up I had to look at a full picture of a deck lid to visualize where that first pic was and what orientation the deck lid would have been in for it to drip that direction.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: X33RS on October 27, 2016, 03:11:44 PM
Same here Austin, I needed to see the trunk latch to comprehend the orientation of the decklid.  The third pic now makes much more sense.   I now see the direction of the run that Kolektor is describing.  Odd indeed.

How is paint coverage on the rear portion of the lid, on the bracing between the hinges facing forward?  That's the area that almost never has coverage from the factory, you simply can't get the gun in there when the lid is bolted to the car.

I can tell in the second pic the paint is light just behind the hinge where the arm would be in the way.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: 68camaroz28 on October 27, 2016, 10:53:16 PM
It would be tough to prove that as original paint.  Not saying it is or isn't.

But there were a lot of cars that were soda blasted in the 80s for restoration.

It doesn't make sense to me why that paint is running in that direction.  Unless it was off the car and "touched up" at some time.
Yes it is odd and the possible "touched up" at some time seems to a possibility since the hinge area stayed unpainted as originals.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: Charley on October 28, 2016, 12:25:52 AM
Seems like the paint would run that way if the lid was closed before paint was dry.
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: bcmiller on October 28, 2016, 01:02:45 AM
Possible. But doubtful unless the front end was 3 feet up in the air. :)
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: 69Z28-RS on October 28, 2016, 01:57:07 AM
Seems like the paint would run that way if the lid was closed before paint was dry.
I think you'd have to close the trunk VERY fast to get it running that way before lacquer dried...  :)
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: 68camaroz28 on October 28, 2016, 12:06:23 PM
Bentley, when they closed the lids sometimes there is a smudge mark from a finger in the right sided hole where they would wrap a finger inside that area to bring down the lid. Does the lid have one of those smudge marks?
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: BillOhio on October 28, 2016, 12:38:06 PM
This was on a copo at mecum indy this spring
Title: Re: Trunk Paint Curiosity
Post by: bcmiller on October 29, 2016, 12:50:42 AM
Maybe my eyes are not the greatest, but it looks like the paint that ran is not quite the same color as what is under it?