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Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 16, 2016, 02:59:39 AM
A real local 1968 RS Z/28 survivor purchased from Ammon R. Smith and has been local owned (2 owner) its entire car life. I had told Byron I was going to get this posted by July so a little late but hopefully we can get this moved to our CRG Survivor Category as there are a lot of neat features/pictures and things to discuss on this late 07D built Z/28 like how it was parked and reason why.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1026_zpsdkilefcv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1026_zpsdkilefcv.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1028_zpsag5bqfxs.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1028_zpsag5bqfxs.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1027_zpsnwqozhel.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1027_zpsnwqozhel.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1025_zpsxmrfbmmj.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1025_zpsxmrfbmmj.jpg.html)
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: ZLP955 on August 16, 2016, 12:25:06 PM
What a gorgeous car Chick, hope to read and see more in the 'survivor' forum.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: BillOhio on August 16, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Has to be great story there and Chicks just teasing us!!
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: Hans L on August 16, 2016, 03:58:57 PM
Stunning!  Can't wait to read more about this car and see more pics!!
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 6667ss138 on August 16, 2016, 08:25:01 PM
Beautiful!!
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 17, 2016, 03:00:20 AM
Has to be great story there and Chicks just teasing us!!
Ouch, I committed a cardinal sin 😊 by spelling Bryon’s name incorrect. The most important word in each of our vocabulary is our name so sorry Bryon!
OK Bill, a little bit about why the car has low mileage and just sat for many years but first let me introduce the cars 2nd owner is my good friend Skip, the same person who owns that fantastic 69 Hugger Orange low mileage Z/28 Survivor you looked at while attending last years MCACN. This 68Z I looked at many times while restoring our 68Z but had to keep in mind being a late build there are differences.
OK the story! The original owner in 1974 who lived in a small local town named Red Lion travels hardly a mile to obtain a trade-in value with the town’s Chevrolet Dealership named Sterner Chevrolet. What they offered was a piddly unbelievable $300. The owner told them the Transmission was worth that much and they agreed but stated something to the effect, “Yes, but we can’t sell them.” The owner then parks that 68 RS Z/28 in his Mom’s garage behind the house in an ally way and eventually moves to NY. The car sits in that garage for years until Skip hears about it and eventually happens to be in the area on business when the Mom is opening the garage to take her car out. The rest as they say is History but Skip told me it was covered with dust to the point you could hardly make out the stripes on the car, and two others had cracks at obtaining the car but turned it down. Survivors many years ago are not how Survivors are cherished and looked upon today, and heck we did not even call them Survivors.
Note on the car the last PA inspection sticker expired end of October, 1974.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1039_zpsuq0sexnt.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1039_zpsuq0sexnt.jpg.html)
I happened to have a old shipping box with the Sterner Chevrolet label.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/GM%20Dealerships/DSC_1099_zpsgj3jn5ed.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/GM%20Dealerships/DSC_1099_zpsgj3jn5ed.jpg.html)
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: JKZ27 on August 17, 2016, 10:15:33 AM
Amazing. How many miles are on it?
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: BillOhio on August 17, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
Skip seems to be in the right place at the right time
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: firstgenaddict on August 17, 2016, 03:39:30 PM
I love 68's... especially RS's with the wide trim on the top of the doors, Rally green looks so perfect on it as well. Great car.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: janobyte on August 17, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
Now that is another example of where the bar should be set when attaching the term survivor. Not a hoopty,(still around, but poorly maintained) not a staged barn find. Rare indeed, and deserving the title.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 17, 2016, 11:11:33 PM
Amazing. How many miles are on it?
Was a little over 39 thousand when purchased in 1989. Less than 42 thousand on it today. It is driven to local shows and enjoyed for sure. 
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 17, 2016, 11:13:48 PM
Skip seems to be in the right place at the right time
Yes indeed! By the way he picked this one up on a Good Friday in 1989 and I was with him when we picked up the 69 Hugger Orange Z/28 gem on guess what, yep, Good Friday!
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: janobyte on August 17, 2016, 11:49:04 PM
Hmph, 89 was a good year, I took possession when I dc'd from the Air Force. March 21st. Does it still retain 100% of it's original paint? Looking back, my biggest mistake with the Z( I guess my Father's also) was "over loving it" in the form of waxing. On the body creases, in certain areas, paint had literally been rubbed off. And a power buffer was never used on it. Overall, the car was lighter then the Ash Gold would have presented from the factory. Your buddy's Z's are very impressive. He needs a 67 to complete the trilogy!
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 18, 2016, 12:20:20 AM
Hmph, 89 was a good year, I took possession when I dc'd from the Air Force. March 21st. Does it still retain 100% of it's original paint? Looking back, my biggest mistake with the Z( I guess my Father's also) was "over loving it" in the form of waxing. On the body creases, in certain areas, paint had literally been rubbed off. And a power buffer was never used on it. Overall, the car was lighter then the Ash Gold would have presented from the factory. Your buddy's Z's are very impressive. He needs a 67 to complete the trilogy!
Yes, its a paint survivor but close up it has some flaws here and there along with a thin area on a front header panel white stripe but I love this car and as James stated, the RS with the outside trim makes one awesome car and one of my favorite first gen Camaro's. Now for some pics as we await getting this moved to the survivor area.
Antenna on this late 07D 68 Camaro.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1029_zpsxwxzkiid.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1029_zpsxwxzkiid.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1030_zpshuvjtbbq.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1030_zpshuvjtbbq.jpg.html)

If we restored a first gen cowl like this some might say it was not correct as the fade paint line is higher than what we normally note.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1043_zpsupq7zyak.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1043_zpsupq7zyak.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1044_zpsjwwkkwia.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1044_zpsjwwkkwia.jpg.html)

Note the RS chalked on the Valance Panel. Please note the back side is painted body color but the center area is black.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1042_zpstxfy5jh1.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1042_zpstxfy5jh1.jpg.html)

On the other side there seems to be something 8. Possible sequence # or 68 since 69's are starting soon??
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1056_zpsk2aduk14.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1056_zpsk2aduk14.jpg.html)
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68L30 on August 18, 2016, 12:51:39 AM
Saw this car at the York show years ago....very nice 68!

Steve
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: janobyte on August 18, 2016, 01:27:08 AM
Grass still reflects in the paint, spotless harness...I could spend days ogling this car. None of that awful Ziebart covering everything.
 I get it, I'm loving this car.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: janobyte on August 18, 2016, 01:32:31 AM
And this is why I get to a point and stop. Something always surfaces as reference. And what a time piece.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: HawkX66 on August 18, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
If we restored a first gen cowl like this some might say it was not correct as the fade paint line is higher than what we normally note.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1044_zpsjwwkkwia.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1044_zpsjwwkkwia.jpg.html)



Right where mine was and right where I'll restore it back to when I paint it.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: firstgenaddict on August 18, 2016, 04:04:36 PM
My God that is a beautiful car...
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 19, 2016, 01:47:56 AM
More pictures of the engine compartment:
Look at the difference in the captured washer on the lower fender bolt from the right side to the left side.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1046_zps7fj9zado.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1046_zps7fj9zado.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1045_zpsrqtlavak.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1045_zpsrqtlavak.jpg.html)


Radiator Tag with the white highlighted UH.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1048_zpsxtkay2rm.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1048_zpsxtkay2rm.jpg.html)

Spring painted black-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1047_zpsevlvneu5.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1047_zpsevlvneu5.jpg.html)

All of the B, P, & B stampings are in green.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1058_zpsz0di2mn8.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1058_zpsz0di2mn8.jpg.html)

Note the paint on the by-pass hose coupling. From other vintage pictures I have from other cars it shows the by-pass hose was in place when the engine was painted.
  (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1061_zpshy6q7lvd.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1061_zpshy6q7lvd.jpg.html)

RS Washer bottle zinc screws.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1049_zps1xjexfui.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1049_zps1xjexfui.jpg.html)

Clearly shows the 3/4” captured washer used on the hinge to fender which is not what the 68 AIM calls out. Very normal process of what was actually used.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1051_zpsfo2jnlti.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1051_zpsfo2jnlti.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1052_zpsdh3vvxyq.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1052_zpsdh3vvxyq.jpg.html)

Radiator Cap-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1054_zpsd301xt64.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1054_zpsd301xt64.jpg.html)

Fan Shroud bolt assembly-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1053_zpsewmsrqkg.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1053_zpsewmsrqkg.jpg.html)
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 1968 Z28 on August 19, 2016, 02:35:14 AM
Hi Chick....I see you noticed the difference between the right and left bolt that attaches the fender to the firewall. Well guess what, my car was the same way.  Now please tell us why this happened.   ???
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 19, 2016, 02:05:23 PM
Hi Chick....I see you noticed the difference between the right and left bolt that attaches the fender to the firewall. Well guess what, my car was the same way.  Now please tell us why this happened.   ???
Our 68 was the same way and have noticed that feature on everything I've looked at in the past. I'm assuming the reason Jerry was when you look at the rear of the hinge area and if the screw called out was used with it's 1" captured washer there would be no room for adjustment so I'm thinking assemblers early on used what worked. We called it in manufacturing where I worked "black book process!"
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/9419301%20Hinge%20Screw_zpsohayesmu.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/9419301%20Hinge%20Screw_zpsohayesmu.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/HingeBolts%20DifWashers_zpsi2l6t2kv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/HingeBolts%20DifWashers_zpsi2l6t2kv.jpg.html)
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 19, 2016, 03:07:55 PM
We have had somewhat of a reorganization of the Forum section names.  Because the term "Survivor" is not an exact definition and can be interpreted differently, we are moving away from that term as a section. It is now "Original Cars and Details".  I will also post something in the Posting Guidelines for that section. The change has nothing to do with this car, and was already being discussed before this car was even posted.

What original feature would you like to highlight on this car when I make a new entry?  How about chalk marks and inspection marks? 

The photo in this thread showing the cowl would be a good addition to the thread at this link.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14029.0;all

Bryon

Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: BillOhio on August 19, 2016, 03:32:32 PM
Great car and thanks to Chick for taking the time to share it.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 19, 2016, 10:37:47 PM
We have had somewhat of a reorganization of the Forum section names.  Because the term "Survivor" is not an exact definition and can be interpreted differently, we are moving away from that term as a section. It is now "Original Cars and Details".  I will also post something in the Posting Guidelines for that section. The change has nothing to do with this car, and was already being discussed before this car was even posted.

What original feature would you like to highlight on this car when I make a new entry?  How about chalk marks and inspection marks? 

The photo in this thread showing the cowl would be a good addition to the thread at this link.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14029.0;all

Bryon


Bryon, did post as you suggested to the above link.
Yes, did see the name changed to "original cars and details." Why not move it over and just title it "Details of a 68 RS Z/28" as I have a load of pictures to share including paint stripes, trunk, interior, RS details, and underneath features.
Title: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 19, 2016, 10:40:22 PM
Great car and thanks to Chick for taking the time to share it.

Thanks Bill but enjoy sharing information/pictures of a car of this caliber.
Left side has white paint showing but right side does not!
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1070_zpsxln9whhi.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1070_zpsxln9whhi.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1071_zpsrwryfdmp.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1071_zpsrwryfdmp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 19, 2016, 11:52:52 PM
Post was moved over and was temporarily locked, while I changed all of the subject lines.

I really, really like this car.  For multiple reasons - it's a 68, it's a Z28, and it's Rallye Green.  :)

There was a car very similar to this that I first saw 23 years ago in my neighborhood, then it disappeared.  I saw it again recently, but was not able to track down where it went, but it appears to be a local car.  The search will continue.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: ko-lek-tor on August 20, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
Hi Chick....I see you noticed the difference between the right and left bolt that attaches the fender to the firewall. Well guess what, my car was the same way.  Now please tell us why this happened.   ???
Our 68 was the same way and have noticed that feature on everything I've looked at in the past. I'm assuming the reason Jerry was when you look at the rear of the hinge area and if the screw called out was used with it's 1" captured washer there would be no room for adjustment so I'm thinking assemblers early on used what worked. We called it in manufacturing where I worked "black book process!"
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/9419301%20Hinge%20Screw_zpsohayesmu.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/9419301%20Hinge%20Screw_zpsohayesmu.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/HingeBolts%20DifWashers_zpsi2l6t2kv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/HingeBolts%20DifWashers_zpsi2l6t2kv.jpg.html)

A little confusion here I believe. Chick, you are noting the size of washer/bolt used to attach the hinge to the fender, the acatual bolt having a smaller than called out on AIM washer size (what I understood) and Jerry is noting the 2 washer sizes of the bolt directly behind the hinge that attach the fender to the cowl. Correct?
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 20, 2016, 04:44:30 PM
Hi Chick....I see you noticed the difference between the right and left bolt that attaches the fender to the firewall. Well guess what, my car was the same way.  Now please tell us why this happened.   ???
Our 68 was the same way and have noticed that feature on everything I've looked at in the past. I'm assuming the reason Jerry was when you look at the rear of the hinge area and if the screw called out was used with it's 1" captured washer there would be no room for adjustment so I'm thinking assemblers early on used what worked. We called it in manufacturing where I worked "black book process!"
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/9419301%20Hinge%20Screw_zpsohayesmu.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/9419301%20Hinge%20Screw_zpsohayesmu.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/HingeBolts%20DifWashers_zpsi2l6t2kv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/HingeBolts%20DifWashers_zpsi2l6t2kv.jpg.html)

A little confusion here I believe. Chick, you are noting the size of washer/bolt used to attach the hinge to the fender, the acatual bolt having a smaller than called out on AIM washer size (what I understood) and Jerry is noting the 2 washer sizes of the bolt directly behind the hinge that attach the fender to the cowl. Correct?
Wow Bentley you are 100% correct. Guess my last post was about the hinge to fender and did not read close enough and assumed. That is most interesting and can anyone state the same findings on their 68? Now, I think Jerry's is a 07C Camaro and Skip's being a 07D might have a time link to assembler or? Jerry, can you confirm the 07C? JohnZ had stated this part of the process took some experience.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 20, 2016, 05:56:11 PM
Yes, two differences being discussed.

I have seen both styles of bolts for the hinge to fender bolts.

Can you check the head markings on left and right fender to firewall bolts?  Are they from the same manufacturer?  If not, that might explain the difference.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 20, 2016, 09:46:13 PM
Yes, two differences being discussed.

I have seen both styles of bolts for the hinge to fender bolts.

Can you check the head markings on left and right fender to firewall bolts?  Are they from the same manufacturer?  If not, that might explain the difference.

Yes, will check head markings on fender to firewall bolts. I do know Jerry commented on my build thread that he also had the smaller captured washer 3/4" used on the hinge to fender.
Some interior pictures:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1038_zpsfw8uniyb.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1038_zpsfw8uniyb.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1037_zps433sfhcq.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1037_zps433sfhcq.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1034_zpsph6a6sni.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1034_zpsph6a6sni.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1035_zpsyqigwpqa.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1035_zpsyqigwpqa.jpg.html)

The type of screws used in the vent & U shaped rubber are the same on both sides.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1036_zpsfcrjleon.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1036_zpsfcrjleon.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1078_zpsdmn2mmbj.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1078_zpsdmn2mmbj.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1080_zpsfpg1zsyc.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1080_zpsfpg1zsyc.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1079_zps0q6nedw5.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1079_zps0q6nedw5.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1081_zpsmdde5ajz.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1081_zpsmdde5ajz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: luv2sixty9 on August 23, 2016, 08:32:59 PM
More pictures of the engine compartment:

RS Washer bottle zinc screws.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1049_zps1xjexfui.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1049_zps1xjexfui.jpg.html)

Let Skip know if he needs the plastic caps for the screw ends to give me a call.


Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 23, 2016, 11:36:47 PM
Great catch David! As many know the back sides of those screws had a type of cap so it did not eventually cause issues with hoses.
Now for some more pictures! Gray tipped but flat style oil dip stick.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1069_zpsdgubv2uw.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1069_zpsdgubv2uw.jpg.html)

Ground wire from battery ground to radiator support. Note the size of the star washer!
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1063_zpsnuddorgx.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1063_zpsnuddorgx.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1060_zpsee8qd5wc.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1060_zpsee8qd5wc.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1059_zpsis5bqzvp.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1059_zpsis5bqzvp.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1068_zpsqvwzzjn3.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1068_zpsqvwzzjn3.jpg.html)

Side Marker Bezel which used a thinner bezel in front fender compared to back bezel and bezels had black paint in groove from factory.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1031_zpspkbnl04e.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1031_zpspkbnl04e.jpg.html)

Trunk:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1032_zps455of9zv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1032_zps455of9zv.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1033_zpshqdveqfy.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1033_zpshqdveqfy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: Gars68Tux on August 24, 2016, 05:28:37 AM
hmm, maybe I'm wrong, but thought I read/heard that 68 didn't have the caps on RS washer bottle screws ?

Note the in-line check valve on the RS vacuum line from tank, then the filter. Those check valves aren't reproduced as far as I know.  69 is, but it's different. BTW, I thought that line was routed in behind the fender. The filter and check valve would still be accessible prior to where the line disappears behind the fender.

Chick, do you recall or have pics of the handle on hood release ? I'm pretty certain (not sure) they were painted black so it wasn't so visible through the grill ?

Thanks for the pics. VERY NICE SURVIVOR !
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 27, 2016, 10:36:51 PM
Did you ever get a chance to compare the head markings in the fender to firewall bolts?
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 28, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
Did you ever get a chance to compare the head markings in the fender to firewall bolts?

This is the pass side with the small diameter washer.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1137_zps4c9ohsdv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1137_zps4c9ohsdv.jpg.html)

On your question Garth "do you recall or have pics of the handle on hood release ? I'm pretty certain (not sure) they were painted black so it wasn't so visible through the grill ?"
No I do not and need to check that Garth!
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 1968 Z28 on August 28, 2016, 04:17:32 PM
Did you ever get a chance to compare the head markings in the fender to firewall bolts?

This is the pass side with the small diameter washer.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1137_zps4c9ohsdv.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1137_zps4c9ohsdv.jpg.html)

This bolt is identical to the one used on my car......there is a circle inside the recessed edge of the head and there are three slashes around the edge of the circle and the slashes only occupy one half of the circle.  Opposite the half with the slashes is an "S".
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 29, 2016, 02:35:22 AM
Thanks guys. I would like to see high quality close up pics for comparison - please!
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 1968 Z28 on August 29, 2016, 10:14:07 PM
Thanks guys. I would like to see high quality close up pics for comparison - please!
Hi Bryon...here are photos of the two different bolts used on the fender to firewall on my 1968 07C Z28.

#3857663 used to bolt the fender to the firewall...was also used to bolt the fender to the pillar.  I have a total of four bolts.
Photo of bolt head...
     (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TFP5bRvb7EnHTftEWc74-fcqqMIHX-76W_tbSWwS8exEHTQRPjqvcP_n96XJk-d4UIeodhoekpwtOPHqbL45MftVMYFs8rxHj8mB31JVy5cQvtoUs6CmJm9dNPnp01C2YlJIWdUJUFW_06LFXe8nsj6Dj8pUHmHE_jQDn1fy9-ZkRgVCN4S8PnD0mZwbyBnYNoP-QjxfARDl4JFS3VLL9KzNBNZZMfPdyCFRhKmb4_mt8AOpWd79ZwKB4kR7rSwescD9gUFuF7A6Fm4JbMNXRShOQAX3rBWTM_AlgIFgVQz5WK79wPddmZ-2iKMOROjsqCkKE0CUSWTsdg3xEffjsdXbjJQ1nX30lgDR2xA95QOzOytfgToveScwH0bdgo5o1bsW34XW-ecuaUm78WZAgPt6WZSYRk-v9SLJJVBm8BiRnQdpjYJoONEkgne5XoAOyDNBW4Zt7fNNHLBiP80f4W0sSg1Do9d686ufBUjqJ4MzpmPtV686QqC9ObLVXapvHB8FxOPGH7fG-u51DxnDVeYK7olmmJo-7HoeSRqGpmM4JSHwW-VWXPx06RJE7hLH23jL4nBJYL9qSDcqpwseY2Q87lzXTfDSCu1NG2vas2hDgcrN=w652-h600-no)
Photo of bolt profile.....
     (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9XH-MT7vVWKaKyLN1wJx2ddMB9IKHPGSBhNzz6Y2ZNwtwM8xrWDtdteEXvlQFDebrg66X99zfrHuQVYoqN9Xo4Ms4b7ntfuFo071gAdBnkbvGhLGajpo5M3T1Rd-CV-DtyRtUcRE659iYLZR_GUzC6LkNc7fE7sp7PgHx9uLpQRAL0x39PcwiqgmMcleTjf1GPYhl9pLKI0BR1Tyte2xGeBuA7pRYz1MsUUbDx79MBZDRPnJn8Y6mcTmIA2u8DOJw7ELIITIy9btdHv6YFVRevYAL7lFUKrL8m_lc7OWHqgIGuXp7M51F0p3S-hl4Hern5a6RR9AoZlWdbWtbT3stcWBdVft246WfnHW2V7hYLlTtdK6SuA0o2RQj6cpUvaYaZjSUqvPtpQP5P5jtliqyWp-aCE5T4GfOrFYCFOs0g2sbTCfpHkToyDhd9uXd9pu_deoWutTT4TCaW5El94ssl4vz1pflSYX0FMgDaDwgK5MxBF_dX4CCRPuYj2yLe3htgwJDSA1igPXVcAgbwp2IbUQj50ZbObv-ZqTBhMYMvvhY6CQVmPSJPnntttZzi_K7cB-4lYp2vchOp5I20Fn7wivJzj-ouv1b2IjkFAq092aJ3MQ=w541-h704-no)

#3839741 used to bolt fender to top of cowl.....also used to bolt bottom of fender to bracket.  Have a total of four bolts.
Photo of the bolt head.....
     (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IosM5vnEUj6PRFBmL2Iv9AA-eMWOCO9nNhsP4IUKJ6kiuyed5j6uDPLZtsJXUZCgAZTjYbXXFhQsgFfvpTAtEY0wbYyMMEXqBU9ioRReEnkxMp6KY5eDyRPt6sh7pzjM2xh32mWa1ImELOLeCReHo5VPTP3mj0uHe0VxjTiPwjv7c0KwmEfeo9Lvhdi3jvukdW35G8G_qNUBzF7vvli6AUIC54QSf9eky2ea6KX9LR8drzHa2W2IjgBNTYbQCgflhNHHyRzv3RudBe7kTyOkvK6XI0s6ycXAu_GTldld044O3VH952xWNZwvBOSgDFZTpEQCuCvNMPZbBm1U8pOSIBcEpy7NkwxrWXtuBbDrdcAruCrmAO-EBnyQYMa-eCXQUWAbJdT3OyPLkcoomg6v9XLXWniZvvuheQItOCDSeHKarvO-U6xiCfi4Sj3RoWEO3ocF2mGh4YsDJaCiHiGfnDd-bGD6NaHZYQn5sESPWGWsImar3VDTi5kd8T-0wA7guAmd1O_QCcXzI2OZFY6i8N04bR7CpA597ODhFh_sEk59pDpOUdqfbD3tPNbB_SVq1nDF5EzYD_AhIAItoOTu8R21y55AXKMkLa0LdoDT_fSSE5hN=w652-h696-no)
Photo of bolt profile....
     (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9H9-F2Sb97mWAUp75dVTwc-7vy35dSx8NPfiBazYvs7nHtLWhpAzO45uC4n8W1-VxeTiADnf5akBD-fbGkW0kGN6Qa2OtZrYHEkagPcGqeyaQZm9C7SajfU8tFVV93fdcUKhRG4_WCk51QEYSAyAXzsEOzxr8SQ7es7OnLj1-nFzW51oXuQasnVDfyroRbsWHj6F2EB0KWTmSzImOqReF6bkIQV1y4yhOhzDrv68kDpr7CRtkih2VkfLBqxYicnjBUZj_kH0Dgbjb-BplQRLekTO43_IlWAiTaswonxHWwGMMzR7QVhG22oCu8fY3igDHtEP5TIA_7Ql71EdsWvEFv9Zbuoe5IzqaQ57VYY6CIUarK8DDd7IfDc7z5DixljSCswG0rdyg4WQuonlPJ3Rn4opqHMtow21tLe3qvZmJamNGc6xogWKMpNYTqutE6Y8Afsqstem-0CJj7jYE5R53Ogj4UKsBM1qTm7ZyE6pRDDhoVtfob3eO3hIGJLt8u4WBczDH3ggrjN857ILdenbdRxApf3AXwbUjo4iDH_CDMWbDxxPrkx9WFsmosqdMaK8BlB5NzWTXElBu3RL7S5FCHzpjA28offrBlbvQSlREQbY-_Ez=w622-h704-no)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 29, 2016, 11:30:50 PM
Ah, so two different manufacturers! Thanks!
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 29, 2016, 11:53:37 PM
Good job Jerry! The picture I currently have of the large captured washer fender screw to cowl which I believe might be the same manufacturer as yours is a lousy picture and need to try again.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1136_zps5lfbdjv2.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1136_zps5lfbdjv2.jpg.html)

Bryon, you mentioned you have noticed with the screw for the hinge to fender both what the AIM calls out, 1" captured washer, and the 3/4" captured washer type that was in this car and what seems to be the norm. I'm curious as to how often you have noticed the 1" captured washer screw being used in that hinge to fender and if noticed on 67, 68, & 69 year models, or possibly on a specific year? Thanks!
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1051_zpsfo2jnlti.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1051_zpsfo2jnlti.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 30, 2016, 01:21:48 PM
It's going to take a while but I will do some checking on the hinge to fender bolts. Most have the smaller washer, from what I remember.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: X33RS on August 30, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
I've painted a lot of GM cars over the years and on the original cars I've done I always find the small 3/4" capture washer in that location (hinge to fender) Whether it be Pontiac, Oldmobile, etc.. and the 3 chevy cars I have hear (chevelle, Camaro, Nova) are also that way, including my Z.  Not saying 1" capture washer wouldn't be correct but the cars I've found those on have already been apart at one time or another so I can't say it was born that way.
   The problem with the 1" capture washer is that it limits hood adjustment (washer hits curvature of hinge before bolt runs out of slot adjustment)  So I somewhat question what the AIM is calling for, just based on what I've seen and the adjustment issue. 
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on August 30, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
And that's true. If the washer is too big, there is no adjustment.

I can't say 100 percent that the ones with the larger washer were original (not sure if the ones I am thinking of were really 1 inch, but at least a little larger than the small washer version).
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 30, 2016, 11:08:50 PM
I've painted a lot of GM cars over the years and on the original cars I've done I always find the small 3/4" capture washer in that location (hinge to fender) Whether it be Pontiac, Oldmobile, etc.. and the 3 chevy cars I have hear (chevelle, Camaro, Nova) are also that way, including my Z.  Not saying 1" capture washer wouldn't be correct but the cars I've found those on have already been apart at one time or another so I can't say it was born that way.
   The problem with the 1" capture washer is that it limits hood adjustment (washer hits curvature of hinge before bolt runs out of slot adjustment)  So I somewhat question what the AIM is calling for, just based on what I've seen and the adjustment issue. 
And that is why I asked as every survivor or what seemed like an untouched car has had the 3/4" captured washer in that location including our 68Z.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 169INDY on August 31, 2016, 12:50:32 AM
Thank you thank you!
Wow. Looking at the R/S tank & Associated Check valve (External; per the UPC 12 EN dated _Jan 5th 1968_) & filter, I was able to better understand the proper Config MY car should be set as (The Car was front ended in 1979 by previous owner) and they omitted the filter but kept the ORIG external check valve. So I was able to come to terms with this detail. I had a NOS (AC marked) filter in the drawer from Old Classic Camaro orders back in the 80's. Chick sincerely thanks for taking the time to post the pic's

As a side note Both my LOS cars (68/69) have the 1" washers on the hinges, Could it be a Plant -vs- Plant thing?

JIM Weaver
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 31, 2016, 01:06:04 AM
Thank you thank you!
Wow. Looking at the R/S tank & Associated Check valve (External; per the UPC 12 EN dated _Jan 5th 1968_) & filter, I was able to better understand the proper Config MY car should be set as (The Car was front ended in 1979 by previous owner) and they omitted the filter but kept the ORIG external check valve. So I was able to come to terms with this detail. I had a NOS (AC marked) filter in the drawer from Old Classic Camaro orders back in the 80's. Chick sincerely thanks for taking the time to post the pic's

As a side note Both my LOS cars (68/69) have the 1" washers on the hinges, Could it be a Plant -vs- Plant thing?

JIM Weaver

Thanks Jim for both the kind words and the info from your LOS cars. We or I have viewed very few LOS cars and when I have never looked at the hinge to fender arrangement. Might just be a plant thing as suggested.
Trunk W/S-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6214_zpsxrkwvahm.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6214_zpsxrkwvahm.jpg.html)

Trunk hinge to lid screw-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6217_zpszx6upswh.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6217_zpszx6upswh.jpg.html)

Spoiler screw has green paint on end.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6215_zps9hlnllyz.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6215_zps9hlnllyz.jpg.html)

Paint Stripe Details-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4921_zpsclda1umj.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4921_zpsclda1umj.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4920_zpsajoecxok.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4920_zpsajoecxok.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4919_zpscwqyy7ha.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4919_zpscwqyy7ha.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4927_zpspng8pssi.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4927_zpspng8pssi.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4917_zpsmbgd19um.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_4917_zpsmbgd19um.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 31, 2016, 01:11:32 AM
More 68 Z/28 paint stripe details-
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6218_zps4to89col.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6218_zps4to89col.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6219_zpsog4f7eyg.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6219_zpsog4f7eyg.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6220_zpsfwunwmhb.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6220_zpsfwunwmhb.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6221_zpsxh9bro5m.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6221_zpsxh9bro5m.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6222_zpsfhexif9e.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6222_zpsfhexif9e.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6223_zpsy0pht9zy.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_6223_zpsy0pht9zy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: firstgenaddict on September 02, 2016, 10:53:29 PM
I don't know how consistent this would apply however I have seen quite a few original paint LOS cars with the wiper cowl stripe confined to the recess whereas many of the NOR cars have the stripe 1/4-3/8 outside the on the aft portion.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: cook_dw on September 03, 2016, 02:33:08 PM
Great car and time capsule.

I don't know how consistent this would apply however I have seen quite a few original paint LOS cars with the wiper cowl stripe confined to the recess whereas many of the NOR cars have the stripe 1/4-3/8 outside the on the aft portion.

Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on September 03, 2016, 06:04:45 PM
Darrell, are your photos from a LOS or NOR car?

Paul
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: cook_dw on September 03, 2016, 06:10:27 PM
LOS
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 10, 2017, 02:06:06 AM
Original born with battery tray. Note the tab where the battery hold down clamp bolts on. Will not find that tab on NOS service replacement battery trays.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Original%20Parts/68%2007D%20NOR_zpscttaio8n.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Original%20Parts/68%2007D%20NOR_zpscttaio8n.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: firstgenaddict on January 11, 2017, 07:23:49 PM
I would be interested to know whether the batt tray was similar to the mid 70's X bodies (Nova) as I beleive it would probably fit.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: lilfighta on January 18, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
hello 68camaroz28 can you tell me if the front wheel well moldings got to the bottom on the rear wheel well and same with the rear wheel well mouldings do they go to the bottom of wheel well  or cut off by body lower side moulding
thank you mike
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: dutch on January 18, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
Chick - did you happen to take any pictures of the water pump bypass hose fitting on this car. I assume it also is the hexagon style - but none of pictures actually showed much engine details and I was wondering..
Thanks - Randy
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 18, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
hello 68camaroz28 can you tell me if the front wheel well moldings got to the bottom on the rear wheel well and same with the rear wheel well mouldings do they go to the bottom of wheel well  or cut off by body lower side moulding
thank you mike
Mike, the car has RS wheel moldings which stop at the body lower side molding.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 18, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
Chick - did you happen to take any pictures of the water pump bypass hose fitting on this car. I assume it also is the hexagon style - but none of pictures actually showed much engine details and I was wondering..
Thanks - Randy
Randy, look at post #19 as there's a picture that might help with your question but let me know if not.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: dutch on January 19, 2017, 04:13:41 AM
Oops - sorry Chick I did look at that picture too - but obviously not close enough to see what I needed and was asking for... eyes are getting old I guess!
Thx - Randy
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 20, 2017, 04:08:40 AM
Oops - sorry Chick I did look at that picture too - but obviously not close enough to see what I needed and was asking for... eyes are getting old I guess!
Thx - Randy
Here you go Randy as picture of hex design can be more clearly noted. Note the paint as I'm convinced the by-pass hose and nozzle were installed on the engine at Flint and painted.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/100_1114_zpslf0ggzcy.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/100_1114_zpslf0ggzcy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: cook_dw on January 23, 2017, 04:44:48 PM
More pictures of the engine compartment:

RS Washer bottle zinc screws.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1049_zps1xjexfui.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/DSC_1049_zps1xjexfui.jpg.html)




Thought this was interesting as I was going through parts over the weekend and noticed this...  Not sure if it was done by the factory or previous owner...


Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: dutch on January 25, 2017, 04:36:33 PM
Thanks Chick - I didn't notice and missed your PM regarding this additional picture until just now.. It does appear like it was painted so when I get one and get my plug out I will paint mine similarly - thanks for the trouble..
I also got your PM regarding the dipstick and I responded - hope you got it.. but the ghist of it was - mine was long gone by the time I acquired the car close to 30 yrs ago and had been replaced with a chromed version.. so I'm sorry to not be of any assistance to you with that!
Appreciate all your trouble with this!  Randy
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on June 15, 2017, 11:19:44 AM
Two new pictures to add showing the air cleaner lid underneath curved writing and air cleaner base hose configuration.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/Skips%2007D%20script_zpsqpph645s.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/Skips%2007D%20script_zpsqpph645s.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/Skips%20air%20cleaner_zpsw8ju8rou.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/Skips%20air%20cleaner_zpsw8ju8rou.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: Steven c on June 22, 2017, 09:40:13 PM
I've enjoy seeing such a wonderful looking 68 in what looks like it was lost and stuck in time and then awakened in 2016-....

Thanks for the post and pictures. My 68 is so from original i don't know anything other than it was a V-8,  real RS and had a Muncie. A repainted with many things changed former drag car from the 1970's had little clues left when I found it in 82 with no mortar or trans. Even the 12 bolt date dosent quite fit the time line close enough. But it did still have a 5.38  :D

The rally green is my favorite color from that era. Mine was British green now old DuPont midnight blue I think I remember it being said.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68Zproject on June 23, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
Chick, that was the breather hose you referenced?  Looks like the one I have with the GM tag.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on June 23, 2017, 11:09:51 PM
Chick, that was the breather hose you referenced?  Looks like the one I have with the GM tag.
Yes, same one!
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68Zproject on June 23, 2017, 11:35:31 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on July 21, 2017, 01:43:38 AM
The AIM calls out to use four 9780422 (used many places in front end) which is a shouldered screw to attach the lower hood release.  Skip’s late 07D 68Z utilizes two shouldered 9780422 to attach to header panel and two 3846202 to attach to radiator support.

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/3846202%20used%20not%209780422_zpsyuf7xegr.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Hardware%20Original/3846202%20used%20not%209780422_zpsyuf7xegr.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/68NOR07D%203846202_zps7mk1slvn.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/68NOR07D%203846202_zps7mk1slvn.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/68NOR07D%209780422_zpspulvisic.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/68NOR07D%209780422_zpspulvisic.jpg.html)

Dum-dum location on this survivor.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1487_zpstt6jjoc0.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1487_zpstt6jjoc0.jpg.html)

Original Acorn nuts are approximately 7/16” in height. 
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1503_zpsfbvl9svk.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1503_zpsfbvl9svk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on July 21, 2017, 02:12:42 AM
Note alignment hole in this late 07D 68 hood.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1489_zpsmne0pehz.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1489_zpsmne0pehz.jpg.html)

Zinc screw with captured serrated washer for horn.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1510_zpstq9yueh5.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1510_zpstq9yueh5.jpg.html)

Phillips screws used on this 07D, whereas our 01B 68 has hex head screws. Did not look but possibly a difference since RS?
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1500_zpsfslk2do6.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20RS%20Z28/100_1500_zpsfslk2do6.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: BillOhio on July 21, 2017, 12:07:54 PM
Nice work Chick.
My 69 Z also used 2 different screws for the hood release, not the ones specified by the AIM
I put them back the way I found them
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on July 21, 2017, 05:20:54 PM
Nice work Chick.
My 69 Z also used 2 different screws for the hood release, not the ones specified by the AIM
I put them back the way I found them
Thanks Bill! If you look at Skip's late 09D 69Z pics I just posted shows all four screws are the 3846202 captured washer screws. Our 68 01B had and has today the same set up as this late 68.
Title: Re: Details of a 68 RS Z/28
Post by: 68L30 on August 13, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
Here's my 07E filler neck. Factory hardware and restored neck...Phillips head. BTW, STD Coupe, NOT RS.

Steve