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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: Nikke on August 03, 2016, 08:55:57 PM
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I found marks on the Fender extension today.
Looks like 27 above m.
The car is an old race car in bad condition and I bought it to use as a race car.
No VIN Tag or Trim Tag.
Garnet Red X22 01C VIN 124379N583326.
But theres no hole in the firewall for the Cowl Induction Wire.
Did all COPOs have that hole?
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All COPO's had the cowl hood
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No VIN Tag or Trim Tag.
Garnet Red X22 01C VIN 124379N583326.
Nikke how do you know those details, given you said both tags are missing?
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Original paint Garnet Red.
X2 behind the rear seat
Hidden VIN 9N583326
Single 3/8 Fuel line
4 Speed
Wasint there a few early who dident have the hole for the Cowl Induction wire hole?
They had the wire hole drilled higher up, more to the center of the firewall?
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It doesnt show that good
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u331/Nikkewi/thumbnail_20160803_201910_zpsmcg0bkin.jpg)
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Firewall
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u331/Nikkewi/thumbnail_20160803_181732_zpspi4olfoi.jpg)
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X2
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u331/Nikkewi/5710_zpse9159168.jpg)
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(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u331/Nikkewi/_576_zpsoyx4egtk.jpg)
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Thanks for explaining, the 01C threw me but I guess you interpreted likely build week from the hidden partial. Sorry can't offer any insight on the lack of firewall hole (or possible alternate location) for cowl hood, but car certainly has some interesting clues as to how it left the factory.....
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Never seen the large piercing in the middle of the firewall.
You may be thinking about the location of the relay which was changed VERY early in the assembly manual however there are so few data points for early cowl induction cars that I have no idea if any cars had the relay closer to the center of the firewall as was indicated in the Assm Manual.
Besides by the time this car was built the first 50 yenkos were in production and I know they have the piercing in the standard locations.
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What are the actual piercings on the fenders?
Camaro SS emblems on the rear of the fenders?
Should be 4 for the Camaro script and then how many for the SS emblems?
At the front are there any holes?
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No hole for the SS emblem, no hole for engine size emblem.
Z/28 emlems hole drilled twice on the front fenders.
Original Garnet Red fenders.
There has been talk about the hole in the center for ZL2 relay Wire on Team Camaro or Yenko.net.
I've seen pictures on the Firewall on early Copos with Wire in center.
I'll try to find it.
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Front end on the car does not appear to be Garnet Red. Do you have pics of the 4 speed hole?
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Yes it is original Garnet Red on Front Fenders.
It has been Hugger Orange too, then black.
Doors Le Mans Blue
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Cant you see Muncie 4-speed Wire hole in Firewall?
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Yes the muncie hole -- but there is absolutely no cowl induction power feed wire hole shown there.
In the photo showing the firewall there is a SS hood with original insulation showing... the studs through the bottom with the self cutting nuts are there.
Why is there a white non SS hood on the car in the subsequent photo?
Why is the z28 holes drilled 2x show photos.
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Maybe I've put the SS hood on it?
Perhaps they drilled holes for the Z/28 emblem and Discover the emblem set too high and drilled new holes?
Come on guys
I dont need to hear if it's a COPO or not.
I just wanted to Discuss Early ZL2
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Come on guys
I dont need to hear if it's a COPO or not.
I just wanted to Discuss Early ZL2
Did all COPOs have that hole?
???
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-----There are documented examples of cowl hood delivered 69 Camaros with the cowl harness hole in the firewall not drilled in the correct place.
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Nikke where is that quotation from?
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Yenko.net
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The wiring goes in above the fuse box and plugs into the fuse box, you are talking about moving the bulkhead grommet to the other end of the harness if you move the power feed wire to the center of the firewall.
I just got off the phone with the owner of the first documented ZL2 car, Van Nuys 12C never restored with tons of paper, power feed is in the std location at the fuse box.
The early 01B - 01C Yenko's (these are the first 50 COPO 9560's X66 conversions) I know about have harness piercings in the std locations, if I am not mistaken the 1st 2 ZL1's were between the 12C car and the Yenko's and they are std location as is the early Berger ZL1.
Need a Link to the discussion you are referencing on Yenko.
I didn't know of any additional DOCUMENTED early cowl induction cars, doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Here is an early norwood car NOT a ZL2 with a larger hole by the wiper motor.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MoRgAZMYr7UedvrtOm8DTZydlUYvXIWMSiGokOXz5V-kKz1Av8CJGnu0Q2bw1zjdonOiSVEpznH9tlFN-Wvo-1CvLEiWxtfJVZQo5xfvaD-OZC7RAa2JOTLfWXrQ7d54fSN0-Cw-JYDi8LsdLLmXxqaZNsUPIGKmELacoLAfULThJki0V0Fs7SZDFPPUgqUaDp4Wwnu-YjD5fVS5DYv-zonj86FwCJlGxEwYKyEKCLBJ3wZ7DptrFuNtP0mTzUAAHdo_uQw8HoN5eQtdIQvTKFPvGEd02DVTAxI7jrdnfvPoqggVN7-Wql9GWlzXkaYT8KBpU3niP5Bw5uT_bMig8P3SN_zksCbu5vCi5qf6JKrtS7G4HEwe2_cSXdTiBUkmhvlSdmhrTGqdlFR-q3PXHeBeqequIP70Elxdu_vBVuuxQSvhM85A7ptEXOtt0WHU65hM23ASWgmn6JNPDAgatE_r7giJXd3TsDrTQG44ojrZpH4StvFpSaoFGw_qDWRsff9cZk03EIHKkbHI0MJ4gZ4pFRzg9ZVKhC5XdlO6T1hcAHAGvW73BaUMn9CoyhxuZA4jzMg15lSnbLMXkyQQcRbJD1_7zXJC=w1920-h1281-no)
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The hole in the center are U17 wire and oil line hole.
Up to the left is ZL2 relay hole.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/405736/2
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The hole in the center are U17 wire and oil line hole.
Up to the left is ZL2 relay hole.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/405736/2
The only quote from that thread matching anything close to what you are claiming is the following....
Re: FACTORY COWL HOOD [Re: firstgenaddict]
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-----There are documented examples of cowl hood delivered 69 Camaros with the cowl harness hole in the firewall not drilled in the correct place. The hole isnt far off, but its not where the dimple is. Do we chalk it up to "hole driller indifference??? I would think the hole was drilled manually and not punched, but I dont know.......Bill S
QUOTE "THE HOLE ISN'T FAR OFF, BUT NOT WHERE THE DIMPLE IS."
Which means it is still in the location down by the fuse box.
The hole beside your oil pressure gauge hole is not large enough for the power feed... here is the picture of your firewall.
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I will state again...
There are NO documented cowl induction (ZL2) cars with a power feed hole anywhere close to the center of the firewall.
Not a Z28 not 9560 or 9561 and not the car in the discussion within this thread.