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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Maintenance => Topic started by: BillOhio on July 10, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
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My 3 or so years old restoration battery has given up and had read there might be another battery inside the case? Anyone cut one open? Thought I might save the case.
Friend had one and wherever he bought his they told him if it was not on a tender constantly they would not warranty it. I got a good charge in mine after it was acting up and it would hold a load which seems to be good for starting the car 3 times then it is dead and has lost its load capability. Of course the fourth time was when the car was in the trailer and I'm trying to unload it at the show
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Thought about that today. Why not just keep a "good" battery in the car then bolt in the replica when it's time to show?
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Or just do the topper like I posted about a few months back?
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I think I will use a topper.the restoration battery is real heavy to lug around!
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You trailer it, or is it a driver?
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Bill I want you to carry that show battery in your lap while your driving around, so as soon as you park you can put it in have it all correct under the hood... ;D
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This is the burgundy car I just finished. I have 3 miles on it and hated to drive 30 miles to the show and find it leaked something the whole way! So I hauled it and wouldn't start to unload. Then it wouldn't start to load either. Load tester showed it drops to 6 volts after starting 3 times
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Hi Bill,
I've had NOS batteries last maybe 3 years before failing. I have one dead R59 that's in the shed and was wondering along your lines about replacing the internals. I also have a new NOS R59 in the box with the wax plugs still installed I bought in the early 80's that I am holding on to, for what reason I can't figure out. But, I don't want to break the wax seals and add acid only to get a few years out of that. Then, I thought of hauling an empty R59 to a show and swapping it out with one that is used to drive the car but I worry about the eventual chipping or marring of the paint under the support bar bolt heads from swapping it. The R59 repro tops look like a great alternative except for the replacement sides not having the correct pattern.
Decisions....decisions.....*sigh* :-\
What I may wind up doing is this; bring a dead, empty R59 to a show and having more than one right side support bracket on hand to address the eventual bolt marring of the paint, swap out the battery. This would only be for a show I will be spending the whole day at.
Mike
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Lol you guys crack me up.. Good bye hobby; hello obsessive compulsive..
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I didn't realize I had the problem until I found this website site. Maybe we need a new forum for group help session?
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Every one of us have it just in different stages.. Hell if we didnt we wouldnt be here. The guys that have more than one brand car are ADD and ADHD.. ???
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That might include me! The gtx was to drive until the camaro was done and the 300, we'll I have no excuse! It's neat. I really should do something with it, taking up a camaro spot! Parts of it resemble the batmobile
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... and probably includes me too, since I love your 300... :) *(fins and all)*.. actually I love almost all cars that are *different*, or special, in some way... Just call me 'Car Crazy'.. :)
Gary
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Well whats the alternative ? hoarding baseball cards? collecting stamps? bird watching?
I am fine with cars (and motorcycles), being my vise.
I follow Giants baseball pretty close, but not glued to a TV to watch sports. I do follow eBay sales of cars, and try to keep my finger on the pulse of the market.
There are worse(or un-constructive) things to have as a hobby.
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There is a difference in a hobby and an obsession... Just saying.. BTW Im just as guilty as the next with this obsession.. Just making observations.
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Well my relatives think it is an obsession. What counts as an obsession though? (Its not like I have a data base of cars I follow ;D )
Seriously though, I have a handful of vehicles, which do have some turn over. I may obsess over different little things.
Battery wise it would be great to find a Y77 (used or un-used) that I could have on hand, just to be able to pop in to make the car all original.
It would be cool to have a "box" topper that slid onto the top of my Delco side post Battery. I would need a donor for that idea as well though.
When I was in Indiana recently I actually had to purchase a new battery for the car, and was bummed my green eye Delco went out, and the replacements don't even have the green eye anymore. It lasted 7 years, and only got started a couple times a year, so guess I should be happy about that.
Bill I would keep the old battery, maybe empty it, and just have it on hand. I guess it depends on the show, if it is worth doing the swap.
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(Its not like I have a data base of cars I follow ;D )
Hello; my name is Darrell, and I am an addict.
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This probably is a way to explain this to the new lady I have met. Hello my name is Bill and I am obsessed with cars. She kind of wonders what my issues are. She is on the short side and all the shoes I see are heels. I asked if she had any tennis shoes to go to a car show and she didn't realize how much walking there is. Yesterday she said it's good you have that project done, I said now I can start the 300. She would really like it if I was at her house daily but with farming (my excuse) that's not possible lol
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She's watched you restore your Z28.. ? and she still 'wonders what your issues are'???? :) :)
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She just appeared in the last 2 weeks. So she's missed most of it. She did know what a he'llcat challenger was and knew they were making a bigger hp zl-1
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There ARE good women out there, Bill, and the heels... that's even better! My wife has a whole wall of plastic containers for her shoes, over a hundred of 'em. So when she starts getting on me about cars or guns or car parts, I just start walking to the "office" where they are...
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Good one Dale.
I looked the battery over, and I read where people thought some of these batteries sounded hollow and they thought there was a case over a battery. Mine sounds solid like is the battery. Might be more mess than I should try
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Try checking the cells with a hydrometer, see which ones have dropped. If I remember correctly you may just be able to drain and refill with fresh acid. Plates are new in it.Throw a trickle charge on it. Then try load testing again. Cheap.
Also--how did it spin over ? Engines going to be tight right out of the shop. weak battery is going to drain quick. Bare metal at your grounding point?(just checking) How's it roll over with another battery? I know not your first rodeo, just throwing a few things out there.
Personally, I like the resto batteries. Optima's are great in the race car, feel like it would stand out like a sore thumb when the Z's done. Keep the site informed how you make out.
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I heard if those batteries aren't kept charged they crystallize inside and it ruins them. I put it on the trickle size charger every so often and used it 6 months ago on the winch. Both batteries spun the engine over easily but the resto battery only does it 3 times. It pulled that twice and I can charge it up and then it acted ok showing 12 volts under load. Put it in for show and it started three times to get in trailer then drops to about 6 volts under load.
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I heard if those batteries aren't kept charged they crystallize inside and it ruins them. I put it on the trickle size charger every so often and used it 6 months ago on the winch. Both batteries spun the engine over easily but the resto battery only does it 3 times. It pulled that twice and I can charge it up and then it acted ok showing 12 volts under load. Put it in for show and it started three times to get in trailer then drops to about 6 volts under load.
Does a "regular" battery act the same or always start it fine? I put a Deka battery in mine, whips it over like there's no tomorrow, also a new engine (I just changed oil at 200 miles)
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Deka batteries are what I have gone to. Great battery
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I would try removing the sulfates via http://www.pulsetech.net/Content/Applications/Consumer-LP.aspx.
These actually work - the science is sound.