CRG Discussion Forum

Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: 69-er on May 24, 2016, 01:52:31 AM

Title: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: 69-er on May 24, 2016, 01:52:31 AM
I'd like to detail my 69 small block with original style plug wire separators.  Does anybody have some pics stashed away from one of your projects?  I could use some pics of the engine out of the car with close ups of the routing and the type of separators used.

Thanks!
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 24, 2016, 01:11:23 PM
The 3 wire mickey mouse style clip is the most difficult to find, HBC was going to reproduce it... have they?
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: KevinW on May 25, 2016, 11:35:54 AM
So, are there pics of the "Mickey Mouse" style clip? I have not ever seen one.
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: 1968 Z28 on May 25, 2016, 04:28:04 PM
Is this what you want to see?

     (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4XokVVX_gT4exsQnTJvTH6z2pQukYbp8kE4Zu7-CzOiyZRVAErMOjeObvXU0WtFAprygxhlxbVp3CgspLyr-iS9OG6laMmS0m_r01qftXzlDaAOkW7XuuZqAsB-8usyn8Fg8mgDOMp8K9-5cEe4NrEGpZMuPCfyU3YEPOKKqlvyP6owq0_ct3NGllQLoHDxyTcbdk_PO8Kgem0SwxWeHcHRktFKbzOD82QmCSnAkj9-LDfALq1r41SXmZIf_EIKdJRwfcFA-z7uYyKQl9FcCQfoI8BKhe98U6HwwAElzbYvpF3Tbqu7yA-FV3Kf3sTE4bmYWaWGl1gaUdYJnpO_IL8yNn5aRCxKjAru5FU7WBt3UB411FfeY7ACvBf3ke74j8klM5Gq_32UjkZjORXnWdEFN2Z_Al-P8WnVcp_PdyqqenIE0I8SNaYnCqZfJf6HqcbjyqkZpJEWOQpQUp0sOrhvZmiNblPQzYG4l7Y9SxaGV9x5vLEpTnfESAycUeNyvz_rpsNcNAIYtrUqvlOoBOu-4jAmaPgZ9PLCrMUE1orcnTUiz3GHFZbS8spJxqcHbsdRqfhHYgv9L7tkBoSyVJyybch9PQY=w800-h600-no)
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: KevinW on May 25, 2016, 06:51:37 PM
Hmm, the AIM pic looks different than that one, but thanks!
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 31, 2016, 05:53:28 PM
That's it... very hard to find until HBC remade them.
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 31, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Ok it looks like page 92 in the AIM (6-B9). I can clearly see them in the picture and where they go.

http://www.gmpartswiki.com/getpage?pageid=102178

I have not seen these on a 69Z. Do these only apply for the 350, 327/307 cars?

(yes James HBC has them for sale)
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 31, 2016, 08:07:37 PM
The AIM says 'V8 engines'....  :)  apparently applies to all..  Go ahead and order us all a couple of them Austin... :)

ps.  Heartbeat info only references their use on the driver side, but the AIM reference posted shows one each on each side (driver and passenger side).. item 17.. pn 3702799 retainer.   

Gary
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 31, 2016, 08:23:22 PM
Well I saw that, but looking at other unrestored cars I haven't seen them yet on a Z. I didn't see them on Skips orange Z either.

I am so anxious to purchase parts for everyone here, I just want to make sure we all need them first... ;D
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 31, 2016, 08:26:33 PM
I suspect most of those sorts of clips got broken, tossed or lost the first time the wires were rerouted or replaced...   Did your engine -when you purchased the car - have ALL of the other 'retainers' except for the 3-wire one Austin?

PS>  Go ahead an order them for all of us..  I'll be responsible if it turns out we don't really need them? :)  ie.  I'll accept the blame..  I think Heartbeat has some kind of discount (20% off) going thru today? :)
Coupon Code: MEMDAY16
This Coupon Good During Current Promotional Period Ending: May 31st, 2016

Use Code at Checkout. No Minimum Order. Some Restrictions May Apply.
"Non-Discountable" parts or items are marked as such inside the enlarged part description window and are not eligible for discount.   20% OFF


Would they really charge $9.75 to toss a couple of these into an envelope and mail them??  You could probably get 500 of them in the same envelope.. :)
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 31, 2016, 08:48:32 PM
The owner of my car switched the wires early on an saved the originals. I got all the original wires with my car, and all the original clips were present. So yes it came with all the original retainers except for the 3-wire. (Not that my car is the benchmark)
I have some original 69 pics from 1969 when guys bought their cars new, and I don't see it.

Maybe it was a early 69 SBC thing or late 68 carry over?

Sorry I don't have an open account with Heartbeat. Heartbeat and the "King" are in a different universe than my pocketbook. :o
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: X33RS on May 31, 2016, 11:11:10 PM
When I bought the entire wire retainer kit from Heartbeat for my car, 2 of these mickey mouse clips were included.
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: firstgenaddict on June 01, 2016, 05:38:00 PM
The 3 wire retainers have been found throughout production.
Most restorers owners collectors had no idea they were used because they become brittle and the first time the plugs were replaced the clip was lost or broken, they have not been available for years.
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: X33RS on June 01, 2016, 06:48:02 PM
I guess I'll use them since they came in the kit.  Looking at the AIM, illustrations aren't all that great but they seem to have an odd placement holding the front 3 wires right where the 4th wire comes in.  I would have thought (makes sense to me) they would grab all 4 at that point.
Title: Re: SBC Plug Wire Routing Pics
Post by: 69Z28-RS on June 01, 2016, 07:06:16 PM
it almost appeared to me from the drawing that they were using those retainer to sorta 'cross' the 5 and 7  spark plug wires, to minimize cross firing..?  May be my imagination, but one could certain use them that way.. :)