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Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars => 1969 - Orphans => Topic started by: hihorse on March 09, 2016, 12:16:10 PM

Title: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: hihorse on March 09, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
Located in Ontario, Canada , seen this muncie at swap meet, have picture of stamps
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: firstgenaddict on March 15, 2016, 04:23:00 PM
It's dated August 14th 1968. Are you sure it had a B on the end?

Muncie didn't start the A, B, C until Oct 21st 1968.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: jdv69z on March 16, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Without the VIN, could it be Aug of 69?
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: VINCE Z28 on March 16, 2016, 11:46:01 PM
My former 69 camaro L502919 Trans date P9M19 has no letter.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 17, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
hihorse can you post the pics please?
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: jdv69z on March 17, 2016, 01:48:10 PM
My former 69 camaro L502919 Trans date P9M19 has no letter.

Would that not be Aug of 1968?
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 17, 2016, 02:54:45 PM
The VIN and transmission assembly stamp seem to be conflicting, that is why I asked for pics.

Some late 68 Muncies had a small mark that looks kinda like a small squared off c. Not related to the A, B and ratio designators that started later in the 69 model year. I want to see what this one looks like. :)
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: VINCE Z28 on March 17, 2016, 05:30:30 PM
Yes, August 19th 1968.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: 69Z28-RS on March 17, 2016, 06:27:23 PM
It's difficult to tell what this is from the image; almost looks like a double stamp on the last character, but if I had to guess it would be   P9M19     (No trailing character)...
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 19, 2016, 08:32:18 PM
Right, but that is Vince's pic, not the one that the original poster started the thread about.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: 69Z28-RS on March 19, 2016, 10:04:00 PM
Ahhh... so the OP never posted a photo??
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: firstgenaddict on March 20, 2016, 01:07:55 AM
I had the born with Oct 18 or 19 trans in the early 69 Z I had which also DID NOT have the A-B-C suffix, which is how I know that an August trans would not have the designation, AND L502xxx is an EARLY CAR as they didn't build late at LOS! 
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 22, 2016, 12:37:51 AM
Ahhh... so the OP never posted a photo??

No.

And there are restamped cases out there. Not saying it is, but I want to see a photo.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: firstgenaddict on March 22, 2016, 02:14:45 PM
My fault it was N502xxx NOT L502xxx it makes no difference N502xxx is also an EARLY VIN from Norwood.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 22, 2016, 05:11:12 PM
Yes James, we know it is an early VIN.   :)

What I am trying to get is a photo of the information from the original post. As I stated, some 68 Muncies had a small c like stamp at the end of the assembly stamp. The exact meaning or reason for this is unknown, but I have LOTS of examples of this in 68.  Since the one posted is an early 69, I wanted to see if it is similar. 

It's not going to be a c, but it has me curious.  8)

This is what I am talking about.  It is from an M20 assembled in late June.  So really only a month and a half before the P9M14 trans.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 22, 2016, 05:17:05 PM
Another from early July of 68.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: firstgenaddict on March 22, 2016, 05:27:06 PM
Another from early July of 68.

That looks like a partial E or half an L
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 22, 2016, 07:05:19 PM
Have you ever taken an ink blot test? :)

I have! :D
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: VINCE Z28 on March 22, 2016, 11:16:22 PM
Bryon do you know if Muncie was having issues with 4 speeds around the time that symbol showed up ? maybe they were tracking engineering issues?
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 23, 2016, 03:06:47 AM
Bryon do you know if Muncie was having issues with 4 speeds around the time that symbol showed up ? maybe they were tracking engineering issues?

I don't know, but that is one possibility.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: jdv69z on March 23, 2016, 07:09:13 PM
Here's my Sep 68 Muncie stamp; no "c" looking character.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on March 23, 2016, 08:06:16 PM
Thanks Jimmy.

It's not on all of the 68s I have seen - just some. But I have seen it on warranty transmissions and on regular transmissions that went into cars at vehicle assembly.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: VINCE Z28 on April 03, 2016, 11:14:50 PM
Bryon here is one for your files, it's from an April 1st 1968. 442.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on April 05, 2016, 08:23:44 AM
Thanks Vince!
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: hihorse on January 05, 2017, 05:01:28 AM
wanted to update this, was NOT able to locate  pictures on my hard drive
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: bcmiller on January 05, 2017, 04:49:25 PM
Thanks for checking back. Doubtful that is the VIN if it had the B code at the end of the assembly date.
Title: Re: Muncie N502098 P9M14B
Post by: hihorse on January 06, 2017, 03:50:38 PM
i realize why this one created interest. i may still have photo somewhere on my hard drive.  Most likely it was an original case , possible 'B' was a typo on my part. i will post if i find it.