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Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars => 1969 - Orphans => Topic started by: hihorse on March 09, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
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Located in Ontario, Canada , seen this muncie at swap meet, have picture of stamps
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It's dated August 14th 1968. Are you sure it had a B on the end?
Muncie didn't start the A, B, C until Oct 21st 1968.
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Without the VIN, could it be Aug of 69?
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My former 69 camaro L502919 Trans date P9M19 has no letter.
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hihorse can you post the pics please?
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My former 69 camaro L502919 Trans date P9M19 has no letter.
Would that not be Aug of 1968?
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The VIN and transmission assembly stamp seem to be conflicting, that is why I asked for pics.
Some late 68 Muncies had a small mark that looks kinda like a small squared off c. Not related to the A, B and ratio designators that started later in the 69 model year. I want to see what this one looks like. :)
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Yes, August 19th 1968.
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It's difficult to tell what this is from the image; almost looks like a double stamp on the last character, but if I had to guess it would be P9M19 (No trailing character)...
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Right, but that is Vince's pic, not the one that the original poster started the thread about.
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Ahhh... so the OP never posted a photo??
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I had the born with Oct 18 or 19 trans in the early 69 Z I had which also DID NOT have the A-B-C suffix, which is how I know that an August trans would not have the designation, AND L502xxx is an EARLY CAR as they didn't build late at LOS!
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Ahhh... so the OP never posted a photo??
No.
And there are restamped cases out there. Not saying it is, but I want to see a photo.
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My fault it was N502xxx NOT L502xxx it makes no difference N502xxx is also an EARLY VIN from Norwood.
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Yes James, we know it is an early VIN. :)
What I am trying to get is a photo of the information from the original post. As I stated, some 68 Muncies had a small c like stamp at the end of the assembly stamp. The exact meaning or reason for this is unknown, but I have LOTS of examples of this in 68. Since the one posted is an early 69, I wanted to see if it is similar.
It's not going to be a c, but it has me curious. 8)
This is what I am talking about. It is from an M20 assembled in late June. So really only a month and a half before the P9M14 trans.
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Another from early July of 68.
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Another from early July of 68.
That looks like a partial E or half an L
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Have you ever taken an ink blot test? :)
I have! :D
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Bryon do you know if Muncie was having issues with 4 speeds around the time that symbol showed up ? maybe they were tracking engineering issues?
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Bryon do you know if Muncie was having issues with 4 speeds around the time that symbol showed up ? maybe they were tracking engineering issues?
I don't know, but that is one possibility.
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Here's my Sep 68 Muncie stamp; no "c" looking character.
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Thanks Jimmy.
It's not on all of the 68s I have seen - just some. But I have seen it on warranty transmissions and on regular transmissions that went into cars at vehicle assembly.
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Bryon here is one for your files, it's from an April 1st 1968. 442.
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Thanks Vince!
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wanted to update this, was NOT able to locate pictures on my hard drive
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Thanks for checking back. Doubtful that is the VIN if it had the B code at the end of the assembly date.
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i realize why this one created interest. i may still have photo somewhere on my hard drive. Most likely it was an original case , possible 'B' was a typo on my part. i will post if i find it.