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Title: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: bcmiller on February 15, 2016, 08:36:50 PM
This car is no stranger to CRG, but I believe it deserves it's own thread in this section.  Enjoy.

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Post by: cook_dw on February 15, 2016, 09:28:48 PM
Thanks Bryon.  I will add vintage photos and as time allows Ill continue with photos I have taken and continually take of the preservation.

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Post by: cook_dw on February 15, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
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Post by: ko-lek-tor on February 15, 2016, 09:36:19 PM
This whole preservation approach is right on with me. I like to see the progress Darrell is making with this car. It has so much meaning, not only as a great specimen to acquire, but more so, a legacy to the great previous owner, his dad.
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Post by: ban617 on February 15, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
Owner added spoilers , they aren't on the early photos....
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Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 15, 2016, 09:44:05 PM
Awesome photos Darrell :)

I see four different sets of wheels (including rallys) - all very cool.
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Post by: cook_dw on February 15, 2016, 09:56:19 PM
Thanks guys and yes there were a few things my father added over the years..   ;)

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Post by: cook_dw on February 15, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
More and the video of when he and the car were on Motor Trends Musclecar Archives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5q7r-p_M8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5q7r-p_M8)
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Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 15, 2016, 10:11:20 PM
Thanks guys and yes there were a few things my father added over the years..   ;)

Yeah, like that goofy looking, red headed kid!  ;D

Sorry Darrell, I couldn't resist.  ;)

Seriously though, beautiful car!  You're lucky your dad kept it all those years.

Paul
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Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 15, 2016, 11:17:34 PM
Yeah - amazing this car is un-restored & original! Very nice.
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Post by: cook_dw on February 15, 2016, 11:29:35 PM
Yeah, like that goofy looking, red headed kid!  ;D

Sorry Darrell, I couldn't resist.  ;)

Seriously though, beautiful car!  You're lucky your dad kept it all those years.

Paul

Ouch..  Lol no that was funny..

Now to the interior shots..  Ill try to keep from doing before and after photos of the preservation and just stick to the finished product.


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Post by: BSMIT59 on February 16, 2016, 01:16:15 AM
Doing your Dad proud Darrel. I'm sure he's smiling down on you and your family. Thank you for sharing.
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Post by: cook_dw on February 16, 2016, 01:28:05 AM
Thanks Barry..  Here ya go Paul that goofy red headed kid staking claim to the car before I could even drive..   ;D   And a few more of the interior.






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Post by: cook_dw on February 16, 2016, 01:31:26 AM
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Post by: 69Z28-RS on February 16, 2016, 01:45:42 AM
Bryon, no argument from any of us that this car deserves it's own thread.. :)   It's a grand car and has a great history, documented by Darrell and his dad over many years.

Darrell:  The labels on your seatbelts seemed to have gotten 'whiter/cleaner'..  did you do something to clean them?  I took photos of mine today to document the dates and notices the labels are dirty (belts never been cleaned).
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Post by: cook_dw on February 16, 2016, 01:58:54 AM
Bryon, no argument from any of us that this car deserves it's own thread.. :)   It's a grand car and has a great history, documented by Darrell and his dad over many years.

Darrell:  The labels on your seatbelts seemed to have gotten 'whiter/cleaner'..  did you do something to clean them?  I took photos of mine today to document the dates and notices the labels are dirty (belts never been cleaned).

Nope I havent done a thing to them..  Thats what happens when they spend all their lives in the shadows of the crevasse between the seats and console.. 


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Post by: cook_dw on February 16, 2016, 02:16:19 AM
This is gonna be it for tonight.  Thanks for all the comments and for looking.  (http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/images/smilies/flashie.gif) 



Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: z28z11 on February 16, 2016, 02:29:43 AM
You've been busy -

I thought the phone would have run out of film by this time - lol.

Proud you're preserving the old horse - a lot better than the other alternative to say the least.

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 16, 2016, 03:11:40 AM
Here ya go Paul that goofy red headed kid staking claim to the car before I could even drive.

LOL!  Great photo Darrell, you can tell your dad was proud of both you and the car! :)

What are the two bolts in the center of the trunk floor for?

Paul
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: cook_dw on February 16, 2016, 03:24:32 AM
That is the trailer hitch that bolts to the bumper and then has a bar that goes under the gas tank and bolts to the floor of the trunk.  I still have the hitch too..
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: cook_dw on February 16, 2016, 03:26:15 AM
You've been busy -

I thought the phone would have run out of film by this time - lol.

Proud you're preserving the old horse - a lot better than the other alternative to say the least.

Regards,
Steve

Thanks.  I'm actually been through a camera & 2 phones now..  Just had to get a new iPhone 6s the other day..  The old ones memory was completely full..  😁
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Post by: 169INDY on February 16, 2016, 04:26:21 AM
Great thread!
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Post by: Kelley W King on February 16, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
Great car, my color also.
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Post by: 68camaroz28 on February 16, 2016, 08:33:52 PM
I love this L78 Camaro Darrell! Great work friend!
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Post by: dino67 on February 16, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
Nice car! Thanks for all the pictures. You make your dad proud looking down on you.   
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: cook_dw on February 17, 2016, 12:57:48 AM
Thanks everyone for the comments..  Really means a lot.  (http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/images/smilies/thankyou.gif)  Now sit back because the next batch of pics of the underbody are here..  (http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/images/smilies/popcorn2.gif)


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Post by: cook_dw on February 17, 2016, 01:14:39 AM
Just to give everyone an idea of what I was working with before I started this preservation process..(http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/images/smilies/faint.gif)

Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: maroman on February 17, 2016, 02:51:55 AM
I surely hope you realize how lucky you are!
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 17, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
Most people do not realize how well the car can actually look without being restored...

I did a refurb on an original paint 1922 Oldsmobile SS V8 with aluminum engine block a year or so ago. (First aluminum V8 made.
 
I have an original paint 1918 twin 6 packard coming in a few months...

I am getting ready to do an original paint 1936 FORD he wanted to paint the car... I have convinced him to refurbish rather than restore.
Entirely too many cars were restored... cars which should have been preserved, now all of their details are lost to time and lack of knowledge.

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Post by: 69Z28-RS on February 17, 2016, 05:11:03 PM
I totally agree with James;
Darrell's car fits perfectly into the category "TOO NICE TO RESTORE"... :)
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Post by: firstgenaddict on February 17, 2016, 05:23:32 PM
I used to only like Chevrolets, now anything unrestored I love to work with, it doesn't matter what make or model, as long as it is old and never been restored, preferably with original paint.
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: cook_dw on February 17, 2016, 05:58:26 PM
I surely hope you realize how lucky you are!

 I fully realize and know exactly how lucky I am.. ;)


James you are correct and am glad I am able to get ideas from your experiences..   8)

Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: 67rs/ss350 68z/28 on February 17, 2016, 06:42:39 PM
Wow that looks Great! That's a lot of work, but it really looks unbelievable. Would you happen to have a picture of where the metal brake line attaches to the rubber flex hose in the rear? ( from outer rocker and the bend to the brake hose bracket) I bought new line kits for my car ( 68 Z) and the fit is terrible, not sure where I have to bend them?  I also had the brake and fuel line clips plated and powder coated ( by JM a while ago), not sure which ones go where?? I know Chick has them in his post but not sure, the AIM doesn't look correct either?? Just a little confusing, Most likely just me
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: cook_dw on February 18, 2016, 01:56:32 AM
See if these help.
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Post by: 67rs/ss350 68z/28 on February 18, 2016, 02:36:27 AM
That's perfect. I have a lot of bending to do  Thank You!
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Post by: cook_dw on February 21, 2016, 05:38:35 PM
I wanted to add this here.  I had previously tried using a rust remover that I thought could do the job and replace the more expensive Evaporust..  Well that wasnt the case..  So I broke down and got a 5 gallon bucket of Evaporust and went to work.  I knew going in that it would more than likely remove the paint markings and I KNOW!!! I said I wasnt going to repaint anything but because the rust remover took the paint markings off I felt it was important to reapply them because I had photos of it before..

Here are the before and after.  I had to knock the shine off the markings and I think I am close but its not 100% exactly like it was but it is what it is and it was my decision so I have to live with it..


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Post by: maroman on February 21, 2016, 06:17:11 PM
Darrel, do you use Gibbs? It will protect bare metal and actually stay wet to the touch for a long time.
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Post by: cook_dw on February 21, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
No I used Cosmoline aerosol Rust Veto to protect the bare metal.  What is Gibbs?  Its not ringing a bell.
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Post by: BULLITT65 on February 21, 2016, 10:02:45 PM
Darrell the drive shaft "touch up" looks good to me. I may have done the same.
I will have to tackle this on my 69 Z one day. Did you totally submerge the drive shaft in the evaporust? for how long?
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Post by: maroman on February 21, 2016, 11:00:37 PM
Gibbs is the very best penetrating oil/water displace/starting fluid I have ever used, google it. It can even be painted over, so it can't have sillycone in it.
Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:40:36 AM
Original smog pump, pump brackets & manifolds.  Everything was derusted and protected with Rust Veto.


Exhaust manifolds along with the portion of the head pipes that was cut off when headers were installed.


Passenger side.





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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:41:50 AM
Passenger side casting number and casting date. (photos taken before derusting)

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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:44:24 AM
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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:45:07 AM
Drivers side casting number and casting date. (Photos taken before derusting)
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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:48:21 AM
Pump, brackets & hoses.



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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:51:35 AM
Main bracket
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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:52:14 AM
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Main bracket bolts and adjusting bracket bolt.
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Diverter valve bolts, diverter valve housing that bolts to pump bolts.
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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:56:31 AM
Pulley and bolts.
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Post by: cook_dw on March 03, 2016, 01:57:29 AM
Hose markings and pump stamping. 
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Post by: firstgenaddict on March 04, 2016, 06:40:04 PM
Pretty sure the hose is dated  11027   11th month 2nd day 1967

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Post by: cook_dw on March 04, 2016, 08:08:29 PM
There are clamps dated 4/67 & 1/68 so I wouldnt be surprised by that date.
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Post by: firstgenaddict on March 04, 2016, 11:26:40 PM
The rubber GAS line on the 12C X66 conv from a couple of years ago had 10308 on it.  Tenth month 30th day 1968 is what I figured.
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Post by: cook_dw on March 05, 2016, 12:05:07 PM
BTW I'm sure you noticed but I used your trick on the hoses.. ;)
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Post by: cook_dw on April 24, 2016, 01:35:52 PM
9 months ago I started this mini preservation project and yesterday the car saw the light of day for the first time since..  Granted it is far from finished but I have to call it complete for now until I get a few other projects finished.  So with that I will say take care and thanks for reading and watching.  If anyone needs to reach me they can email me at cook_dw@hotmail.com  Later, Darrell

(http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/04/full-1263-42724-img_1782_1.jpg)

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Title: Re: 68 L78 Rallye Green
Post by: bcmiller on April 24, 2016, 07:02:12 PM
Looks great!!!
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Post by: HawkX66 on April 24, 2016, 10:36:58 PM
Crazy nice job Darryl! Looks outstanding!
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Post by: BULLITT65 on April 25, 2016, 03:28:43 AM
A quality job as usual, from a quality guy.

Any plans for the 68 Z? is 2017 the year you turn wrenches on that baby?
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Post by: restore-z28 on April 28, 2016, 08:31:27 PM
Very nice, car and back story is amazing.
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Post by: cook_dw on May 25, 2016, 05:08:00 PM
Crazy nice job Darryl! Looks outstanding!

A quality job as usual, from a quality guy.
Any plans for the 68 Z? is 2017 the year you turn wrenches on that baby?

Very nice, car and back story is amazing.


Thanks guys.  As for the plans I have no plans for the Z at this time..  Too many other things need to happen first.  Itll be there when I am ready.
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Post by: cook_dw on June 20, 2016, 01:41:11 PM
Rear brakes were rebuilt over the weekend and noticed a couple markings.  After derusting the parts hadnt noticed it before but you can see that the adjuster plate is hardened on the adjuster side. 


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Post by: cook_dw on June 20, 2016, 01:41:39 PM
Drivers side
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Post by: cook_dw on June 20, 2016, 01:42:19 PM
Also looks like the passenger side adjuster is gold dichromate or cad and the driver side is a blue plating.
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Post by: firstgenaddict on June 20, 2016, 02:52:42 PM
nice details in the brakes Darrell!
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Post by: cook_dw on June 20, 2016, 03:28:05 PM
Thanks.  I need to get a couple shots of the brakes installed after derusting etc.  BTW Evaporust in a crockpot is the cats meow..  I have the original wheel cylinders in boxes ready to be sent off for rebuilding as I was unable to remove the bleeders even with the left handed drill bits.  Plus they have some pitting in the bores..
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Post by: cook_dw on June 21, 2016, 12:51:29 AM
Drivers side
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Post by: cook_dw on June 21, 2016, 01:01:44 AM
Passenger side.  Also finished up the entire brake system tonight with bleeding of the system.  Previously I had rebuilt the metering valve with the rebuild kit from MCR.  First attempt fluid was pouring out of the back of the valve..  I thought great..  Pulled it off tore it apart looked at the orientation of the seal thinking I'd screwed that up..  Nope put it back on and still blowing fluid out the back..  Got to reading the MCR rebuild article online and noticed it said make sure the pocket that the seal sits in is extremely clean.  Sooo, back off and torn down and got out the pick and it had a small little piece of rust down in the crevice and threw it back together and back on the car and bingo..  No more leaking and a very firm pedal..
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Post by: 6667ss138 on June 21, 2016, 01:44:54 AM
Great work, Darrell!
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Post by: cook_dw on June 21, 2016, 03:38:11 PM
Thanks Len.
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Post by: Mike S on June 21, 2016, 04:08:24 PM
Darrell,

  Did the drums show any signs of the rear two letter prefix code sticker on the outside?
The paint looks great. My 67's LOS paint is so dry that the micro-cracking is very obvious and some areas it's coming off.

Mike
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Post by: cook_dw on June 21, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
No stickers were present.  Dad actually had painted them white not long after getting the car.  So who knows if they were there then or not..  Yeah once it starts cracks its down hill from there..  Just keep letting the paint soak in Mequiars #7 polish which is about the best thing for it.
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Post by: paceme on July 19, 2016, 01:13:09 PM
Darrell we'd love to see your car attend MCACN. It is a real stunner. You've done an excellent job documenting and preserving the car. ;)
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Post by: cook_dw on July 19, 2016, 03:01:48 PM
Steve, thank you for the kind words and the invite..  Unfortunately, this dumb ole redneck would get lost up there in the city and besides its probably better that I stay down in the minors as Im not ready to mix it up with the heavy hitters of the majors. 
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Post by: BULLITT65 on July 19, 2016, 03:13:32 PM
Hey Darrell, what did that run you to have the cylinders rebuilt?
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Post by: cook_dw on July 19, 2016, 03:17:02 PM
I didnt have them rebuilt..  I put the originals up and just got some over the counter replacements for the time being.
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Post by: BULLITT65 on July 19, 2016, 04:00:11 PM
Oh I thought you had sent them out. Just curious who you through for the replacements. It seems wether I go through O'Reilly, AutoZone, or Napa, it is all foreign made crap.
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Post by: cook_dw on July 19, 2016, 04:03:07 PM
I got them at OReilly's.  I didnt want to wait and I wanted to drive the car.  I will send them off to someone at some point..  Im not in a rush.  Cars not going anywhere.  ;)
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Post by: firstgenaddict on July 20, 2016, 05:39:34 PM
I am so glad you got this car and have documented it through the sites. 68 L78's are scarce and unmolested unrestored ones are practically non existent.
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Post by: cook_dw on July 20, 2016, 08:03:49 PM
Thanks James..  I am very lucky to have the father that I did.
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Post by: cook_dw on October 26, 2016, 04:45:22 PM
10 years ago today my father was needed to bang gears in heaven..  There isnt a day that goes by that I do not have a thought of or about him.  I miss ya pop!!






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Post by: z28z11 on October 27, 2016, 01:28:45 AM
Hard to believe it's been 10 years to the day. We won't forget him -

Regards,
Steve