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Title: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: Spooky on February 06, 2016, 06:09:43 PM
Hello, I am looking for a stock appearing oil pan for my x22. The new engine is going to be an all new build using a GMPP ZL1 block (since it is NOM anyway). I am still in the planning  and parts gathering  mode. Still not sure of the cubic inch we are going to do with it so I may have to go with a stroker clearance pan. I do want a stock (ish) appearance of an original ZL1 (black pan, timing cover, stock looking valve covers and functioning cowl air cleaner setup). It will not be a true to stock look but a half breed or an almost day 2 with headers and small upgrades. Anybody have a good pan that they have used that kind of looks the part and does not have any issues with cheapness or leaks? Any help would be much appreciated!  Also If you have any experience with one of these blocks, that info would be great!

Scott
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag94/spooky427/scott%20and%20cooper_zpsvtmoqm9f.jpg) (http://s1300.photobucket.com/user/spooky427/media/scott%20and%20cooper_zpsvtmoqm9f.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: janobyte on February 06, 2016, 07:09:02 PM
http://cantonracingproducts.com/

Take a look.

They carry a SBC crate motor pan I plan on getting getting. Stock appearing, good oil control. Obviously not 100% correct in appearance.

Try doing a search on Team Camaro also.
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: HawkX66 on February 06, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
I picked this one up for my spare motor. The only difference I can really find is a hole that's in the gasket lip under the water pump. It doesnt affect anything. I dont know what its for. Good quality and thick gauge steel.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00S75EIVM/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: ko-lek-tor on February 06, 2016, 10:40:32 PM
The only difference I can really find is a hole that's in the gasket lip under the water pump..I don't know what its for[?]
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00S75EIVM/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That does look decent,IMO. That "hole" in the lip is for some gaskets (early, pre 68 I believe) had small 'tits' that when 'popped' into place help keep the rubber seal from pushing out of place.
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: HawkX66 on February 06, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
The only difference I can really find is a hole that's in the gasket lip under the water pump..I don't know what its for[?]
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00S75EIVM/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That does look decent,IMO. That "hole" in the lip is for some gaskets (early, pre 68 I believe) had small 'tits' that when 'popped' into place help keep the rubber seal from pushing out of place.
That's what I was figuring about that hole, but I didn't remember any BBC motors with that.
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: Spooky on February 07, 2016, 02:12:50 AM
Thank you. Those look like good options. Anybody have any experience with the repop pans? Are those just re boxed Dormans? It just that everytime I get something from a dealer, I could have bought it from a reg place or summit cheaper. Just happened with a heater core.

Scott
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: HustleRussell on February 07, 2016, 04:03:15 AM
I purchased a Summit pan for my big block el camino. I've had no problems with leaks. Don't know if it looks original. But it gets the job done.
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: hgger69 on February 08, 2016, 09:24:14 PM
Hi Scott,
Interesting project and I've already started a very similar one, check it out here at CRG: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=13680.0 (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=13680.0)

Hopefully we can learn from each other!  ;)
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: Spooky on February 08, 2016, 11:21:27 PM
Hakan, I am following your post! I have had a few nice guys help with tips. We have a great community to learn from!

Scott
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: hgger69 on February 09, 2016, 07:40:25 AM
Scott,
That's great!
How far have you come so far in collecting parts?  :P
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: Spooky on February 09, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
So far I have the block, oil pressure valve, valve covers, timing cover, flywheel, and 163 intake which I may or may not use depending on head selection. The things I have to determine are
cubic inch displacement (crank stroke)
bore: Would love to keep a 4.250 bore
Deck height: dependent on piston manufacture/ possibly custom pistons for a 10/1 and head combo
Finding a shop that will listen to me and has some experience with doing one of these blocks and is fairly reasonable. (not looking for cheap but don't want to be gouged either)
How to save up to get it done!

Scott
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: HawkX66 on February 09, 2016, 02:14:09 PM
Talk to 1971ls6 (Morgan). He's on Yenko.net and Camaros.net as well as CRG. He bought the same block you did to use in his COPO clone. His is all done and sounds great. He's not far from me here in MI.
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: cook_dw on February 09, 2016, 03:00:34 PM
Where are you out of Spooky/Scott?
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: Spooky on February 09, 2016, 04:47:15 PM
Im from western MA. I have talked to Jeff Morgan. He is a great guy with a sweet car. One of the things he clued me in on was to use the bypass valve. he told me he had an oil pressure issue. That is why I got one so early in build. He also told me he had Diamond custom make pistons for his 074 heads. I think I will use the new GMPP Rovals made by Edelbrock. I wish the looked more stock though

Scott
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: L78 steve on February 09, 2016, 05:21:48 PM
Ive always used these with good luck.
http://www.milodon.com/oil-pans/oil-pans-from-milodon.asp
They have stock as well as racing.
Love your Labrador.
Title: Re: 69 bbc oil pan recomendations
Post by: ban617 on February 11, 2016, 04:04:36 AM
Did the ZL1 pans have a trap door similar to the corvette pan ?