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Title: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 369 on January 30, 2016, 02:46:09 PM
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/5421498459.html

Don't know anything about this car, just came across it looking for parts if any of you clowns are interested ;D
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 30, 2016, 05:11:31 PM
Clown?  I resemble that remark!  :P

Paul
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: BULLITT65 on January 30, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Nice car, perhaps a little over restored?

Is that white/grey primer on the firewall tag area original?

Anyone?
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 30, 2016, 05:49:52 PM
Is that white/grey primer on the firewall tag area original?

Anyone?

Looks restored to me.

Paul
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: BULLITT65 on January 30, 2016, 06:03:27 PM
Sorry let me re-phrase.

Is that similar to the way it would have left the factory?

(why else would someone spray that area like that)
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 30, 2016, 06:27:52 PM
I posted a photo of an original '67 Z28 white painted cowl tag in this CRG thread...

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7658.0

Paul
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: BULLITT65 on January 30, 2016, 06:31:28 PM
thank you
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 30, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
No problem.  IMO, they went overboard with the white paint on the Craigslist '67 Z28 cowl tag.

Paul   
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: BULLITT65 on January 30, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
That was my thoughts as well, after seeing the thread you referenced showing the original cars
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 13, 2016, 04:49:51 PM
VIN 124377N220297

Per JM not in the 67Z database.

Of note: repro brake booster with repro 69 master cylinder; has 4053 not 3910 carb & 68 cowl plenum air cleaner.

Photos of engine pad inconclusive but is 0320 (March 20th) for a 5B car - early?

Nice restoration though.

Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 13, 2016, 09:44:22 PM
I'm not nearly as versed on 67's as I am on 69's... however should the rockers be black?
It's got roof rail drip molding which would be a style trim car... correct? 
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 13, 2016, 10:05:01 PM
I'm not nearly as versed on 67's as I am on 69's... however should the rockers be black?

http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint

Paul
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 13, 2016, 10:59:53 PM
FYI this car does not have 3L (Z22 RS) on the TT - so no black out rockers :)
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: jacmac on February 14, 2016, 12:37:47 AM
UNMOLESTED?????????
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 14, 2016, 02:32:58 AM
Do all 67's have drip molding?
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: Gars68Tux on February 14, 2016, 09:41:22 AM
Hello James, first post here @ CRG for me. Sorry :) Drip moldings were included with Z21 along with the wheel well moldings and side pin striping, which this car doesn't have.

VIN 124377N220297

Per JM not in the 67Z database.

Of note: repro brake booster with repro 69 master cylinder; has 4053 not 3910 carb & 68 cowl plenum air cleaner.

Photos of engine pad inconclusive but is 0320 (March 20th) for a 5B car - early?

Nice restoration though.





How can you tell that's a 68 cowl plenum air cleaner ? Is there a difference between 67 and 68 ?
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 14, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
How can you tell that's a 68 cowl plenum air cleaner ? Is there a difference between 67 and 68 ?

Yes, '68 Camaro cowl plenum air cleaner assemblies have an indentation at the front of the air cleaner for air pump clearance.  '67 cowl plenum air cleaner assemblies do not have this indentation.  You can see the indentation in the two engine photos from the listing.

Paul
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on February 14, 2016, 07:00:37 PM
67 air cowl plenums are easy to find compared to smog pump indented ones so that is Puzzling on its use.
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: Gars68Tux on February 15, 2016, 08:21:56 AM
Thanks Paul, funny I've never noticed that indentation....stands out plain as can be w/o a smog set-up. :)

I wonder if the OTC/ "service replacements" didn't have the indentation ? I noticed Clem's old car (Evening Orchid) doesn't have the indentation. He mentioned he purchased and installed it on his 69Z.
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 15, 2016, 06:55:47 PM
Gars68tux - I'm no expert, but I don't think the 69's needed the indentation - the smog pump is installed under the alternator.
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 68 Ragtop on February 15, 2016, 07:40:01 PM
No problem.  IMO, they went overboard with the white paint on the Craigslist '67 Z28 cowl tag.

Paul   

The original pictures of white highlighted trim tags I have seen look like they where sprayed with a smaller pattern, like from a rattle can. This restored car looks like it was done with a larger spray pattern from a paint gun.

The rear leaf springs also look like they got a liberal coat of gray paint with over spray on the rubber bushings.

Must be an old restoration before a lot of knowledge was out there.
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: Gars68Tux on February 16, 2016, 09:33:17 AM
Gars68tux - I'm no expert, but I don't think the 69's needed the indentation - the smog pump is installed under the alternator.

I'm no expert either, but I don't think a cowl plenum a/c was optional in 69. It would've been OTC, so who knows for sure what you would've got ?

Would it be possible this 67Z may've had A.I.R. (K19) installed originally, and therefore the indentation in the a/c ?
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: BillOhio on February 16, 2016, 01:37:12 PM
I looked at a 67 Z  that was sold new in California and those cars had a.i.r. on them
Title: Re: Craig's list '67 z-28
Post by: 69Z28-RS on February 16, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
I looked at a 67 Z  that was sold new in California and those cars had a.i.r. on them

Per the CRG report on Emissions systems:  "In 1967 (as in 1966), emissions equipment was required only on cars sold in California. The California cars were fitted with an AIR system (Regular Production Option (RPO) K19), and the PCV system (RPO K24). All engines equipped with K19 had unique engine codes due to the required holes in the exhaust manifold(s)."

1967 Z28's with option K19 (AIR) were stamped with 'MP' rather than 'MO' on the engine pad (again per CRG).