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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: 69 Zee on December 30, 2015, 03:12:08 AM

Title: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 69 Zee on December 30, 2015, 03:12:08 AM

Anyone in need of the entire cowl clip?  Best jump on it now before it's to late  ;D  But first run to your favorite bank and take out a second mortgage !  :o

One can only imagine what he'd want for his parts when he's ready to sell them...YIKES !!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-SS-/252228350160?hash=item3ab9fb30d0:g:H80AAOSwJcZWgHKW&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: BillOhio on December 30, 2015, 04:45:10 AM

This looks familar. did we see this before or did I have a long day?

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: Mike S on December 30, 2015, 04:48:19 AM

38 bids so far? Hmmmm...makes me wonder if those are real bidders.

Mike

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: cook_dw on December 30, 2015, 01:21:18 PM

Tag looks fake, firewall looks to have only had standard brakes and not power..  Also if you look at the speedo hole & clip areas they have a different look similar to the area around the tag..  I would bet the tag doesnt line up with the vin..  I smell a rat and I dont mean a big block... 

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: Boston14 on December 31, 2015, 03:41:30 PM

I believe Darrell is correct.  Definitely something fraudulent going on.  Rockers are for coupe, NOT convertible.

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: ko-lek-tor on December 31, 2015, 04:56:56 PM

 :o If it is a 713 interior as tag shows, then where is the assist strap above glove box (and its holes for such)??...along with woodgrain etc...and NO Camaro emblem above the g. box. ::)

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 69 Zee on December 31, 2015, 06:14:00 PM

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on December 31, 2015, 04:56:56 PM

:o If it is a 713 interior as tag shows

Also if correct..713 (Black Houndstooth) was not an option on convertibles other than the Pace Car

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#InteriorColors

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: z28z11 on January 01, 2016, 03:54:37 AM

I imagine to the buyer this cowl means nothing, as obviously the bidders are looking for the tag and VIN to cobble up a rebody. Question posed above is relevant - does the tag date correlate to the VIN bracket ? Since the seller conveniently covered both with Ford sheet metal patch tape, we won't be able to keep an eye on this one. Someone will trying to pass this one off in the future -

Maybe the buyer will attach the trim tag to the Dynacorn or recipient with sheet metal screws, or pop rivets. That's always amusing, no matter how many times I've seen it.

Regards,
Steve

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: HustleRussell on January 01, 2016, 04:40:57 PM

Zooming in on trim tag. Date code is 09 A. VIN 9N679---. CRG general info, end of month reports, states the end of August 69 was VIN 9N678253. The numbers appear to be from same time period. If the Muncie speedo cable piercing is from factory, that would indicate factory SS with manual transmission. I think seller covered #'s to prevent CRG from exposing this project after it's completed and up for sale on e-bay.    http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: janobyte on January 01, 2016, 05:08:02 PM

hmmph

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: HustleRussell on January 01, 2016, 06:03:08 PM

I stand corrected. Muncie hole could also indicate COPO or Z/28. But why fake an SS if it was factory COPO or Z/28?

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: HustleRussell on January 02, 2016, 01:33:08 AM

I still think of my self as newbie. I'm still learning. Just thought id say no doubt trim tag is fake. But if Muncie hole was cut from factory it is real SS,Z28 or COPO with manual trans right?

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: Spooky on January 03, 2016, 12:20:32 AM

If the muncie hole was there, wouldn't it have a hole for the speedo clip? I see just the dimple on where it would have been punched if needed......

Scott

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: ko-lek-tor on January 03, 2016, 01:44:21 AM

Hey Spookster!! Welcome aboard! You know me. PM me.
 That would make  sense, the clip hole. But I would not use the fact that the lack of a piercing rules out what trans. a car came with, as there were some inconsistencies that have been noted on cars and it is possible a piercing got missed, I guess? That cowl has so many other  issues though, the piercing  just one of many.

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: HustleRussell on January 03, 2016, 02:11:30 AM

I think spooky is right on. More proof this is not as advertised.

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: Spooky on January 03, 2016, 02:36:07 AM

It's just I keep looking at my own firewall and notice the missing clips on mine. I just can't bring myself to put in a repop that doesn't look  "good enough". Someday I will find some....

Scott

ko-lek-tor, PM sent

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 04, 2016, 12:19:44 AM

No sale 1-3-16...

Reserve not met = ? (> $12,665.00!)

Paul

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 04, 2016, 01:47:45 AM

Relisted 1-3-16...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252237052748?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Now with a $14,900.00 BIN price!

Paul

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 07, 2016, 03:56:55 AM

No sale 1-6-16...

Reserve not met = ? (> $11,800.00)

Paul

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 10, 2016, 07:00:29 PM

Relisted 1-9-16...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252244421805?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Paul

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: Boston14 on January 12, 2016, 02:03:00 AM

I noticed he removed the picture that showed the coupe rocker panels ............... not a convertible firewall-cowl!!

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 12, 2016, 02:05:28 AM

1-11-16: "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."


Paul

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: DeanZ10 on January 13, 2016, 07:37:07 PM

I must have missed this above, but he said it was a big block car. Isn't the heater core cut out for small block?
If so, one of many untruths.

Dean

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: Sauron327 on January 13, 2016, 09:50:31 PM

Quote from: DeanZ10 on January 13, 2016, 07:37:07 PM

I must have missed this above, but he said it was a big block car. Isn't the heater core cut out for small block?
If so, one of many untruths.

Dean

BB and SB firewalls are the same, the heater box covers are different, A foam seal is used to cover the SB firewall cutouts when a BB cover is used.

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 25, 2016, 01:37:37 AM

Relisted 1-24-16...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252265311081?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Paul

Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Convertible Firewall cowl project
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 01, 2016, 05:56:23 PM

No sale 1-31-16...

Reserve not met = $12,900.00

Relisted 1-31-16...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-SS-/252273133011?vxp=mtr

Visible VIN & cowl tag info...

124679N679xxx

69 12467
713  52 B
09A  X22D80

Seller id: oldfranklin
Seller location: TN

Paul