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Title: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: BillOhio on December 14, 2015, 01:21:35 AM
https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-229944/0/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/4-Speed/

I read the EO car was going to be there so I thought I would look the cars over. I ran across this one.
It says its mostly original paint but sure has alot of shine. I also thought it looked to be fluffed quite a bit under the hood. PBT of both colors, crayon on the fiewall. Its alot of red
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: abiddle on December 14, 2015, 01:15:39 PM
Hey that's pretty sharp red red red. Maybe needs a red endura bumper.  ;)

I have this chalk mark, but its no where near as noticeable. Took me 15 years to figure out it said RED.

In the originality section, can we have a firewall overspray discussion?
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: Mike S on December 14, 2015, 01:26:52 PM
  I  noticed the heater box cover speed nuts look to be silver zinc? I have always thought they were dark phosphate.
Nice car though.

Mike
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: BillOhio on December 14, 2015, 01:34:07 PM
I noticed some more oddities on this car today. white stripped cars have the white on the cowl to the firewall. where black stripped cars different? this car has no black on cowl.
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: paceme on December 14, 2015, 01:56:38 PM
Looks completely restored with lots of reproduction parts. If the engine compartment and interior are any indication I'd be surprised if the paint was original. 
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: cook_dw on December 14, 2015, 02:02:01 PM
  I  noticed the heater box cover speed nuts look to be silver zinc? I have always thought they were dark phosphate.
Nice car though.

Mike

Zinc isn't correct at least for 67 & 8 and pretty sure 9..

Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: X33RS on December 14, 2015, 03:18:39 PM
Restored or aftermarket parts regardless, I kind of like it anyway.  Refreshing to see one with a flat hood, no spoilers, no console and no gauges.

On the firewall,, I don't recall seeing originals like that with body color up there, plus that looks too neatly done anyway, like it's been masked.
    Mine being frost green with black stripes hasn't been tinkered with in that area.  The top of my cowl is black and appears to me to be more of a gloss black, then it transitions to semi gloss as it makes the turn down to the firewall itself.  To be sure I'll have to clean that area thoroughly so I can't be certain of it just yet but first appearance looks to me like 2 different blacks, could be an illusion of 30 years of dirt though.   Remnants of the PBT stamps are still visible as well, in orange.
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: BillOhio on December 14, 2015, 04:06:11 PM
X33- your cowl would match the gloss of stripes and firewall would be more of an eggshell. 

This does look like a nice car, just doesnt look as original as the description leads you to believe.
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: abiddle on December 14, 2015, 04:14:57 PM
Is that shiftboot the way its supposed to look? I've had repro and i have an original which look almost identical, and they both sit down farther on the shifter. I suppose it could be pulled up that way, I've never tried. Sure would help keeping the crumbs out.  ;)
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: BULLITT65 on December 14, 2015, 04:26:50 PM
I also like the no spolier/flat hood look to this car, refreshing.

Well it is "re-sale red" so I think it will generate a lot of interest, not so sure about there pre-sale estimate though.
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: abiddle on December 14, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
"This all-business Z28 wears most of its original Garnet Red paint and red interior " - I'm not sure that's the original interior. The very little I can see of the driver seat in two pics show some puckering along the sides and not-so-straight lines.

My seats were recovered because they were trashed and cut, I didn't have a choice. I don't know how hard this job is, but having seen some expensive cars with messy seats I am super happy my guy did a great job.
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: X33RS on December 14, 2015, 06:53:29 PM
X33- your cowl would match the gloss of stripes and firewall would be more of an eggshell. 

This does look like a nice car, just doesnt look as original as the description leads you to believe.

Good to know Bill, thanks.  My eye's aren't deceiving me then, lol.

I knew the factory would spray that area white when white stripes were ordered, and it was a pretty quick and dirty type of job.  I wasn't sure if they did that with black stripes but from what I can see on mine, it sure looks like they did. 
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: BULLITT65 on December 14, 2015, 08:26:42 PM
I noticed some more oddities on this car today. white stripped cars have the white on the cowl to the firewall. where black stripped cars different? this car has no black on cowl.

I have seen different variations on red cars, from black leading on the cowl all the way to the firewall to red leading to the edge of the firewall (which I posted a pic of one the new  Originality thread)  This the first one I have seen with that much red going over and down the firewall.

It does look very glossy, not much patina.
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: crobjones2 on December 15, 2015, 02:22:36 AM
"- Believed to be 11,000 actual miles "
I believe I only have 32,000 miles on my car-  the odometer has rolled over twice...

nice restoration, I would not pay the amount they are estimating without reading pages 2&3 of Jerry's report
Title: Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum
Post by: X33RS on December 15, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
I wouldn't pay that amount no matter what I read about it, lol.