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Title: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: X33RS on November 23, 2015, 08:45:30 PM
Could someone be kind enough to tell me where they are finding those adjustable fuel gauge modules for the console gauge cars, as well as the harness for it?   I'm speaking of the module that illuminates the low fuel warning light, that you can adjust for the amount of fuel left. 

I don't see it listed at the normal Camaro parts houses.

Thanks.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: Kelley W King on November 23, 2015, 09:18:33 PM
I have never heard they were adjustable and the module is part of the guage.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: X33RS on November 23, 2015, 10:43:07 PM
Yeah they make the modules adjustable, I've seen them before, I just can't remember where.  It was even discussed here before but as usual I can't find anything with a search.

It's just the little black box that mounts on the back of the gauges, it's not actually part of the gauge as in meaning "permanent."  It's removable.  There is one out there that can adjust the warning light to come on sooner or anywhere that suits you, and if I remember right they were priced decently compared to the original that runs about $65.   
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: L78 steve on November 23, 2015, 11:46:54 PM
http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/16541/Camaro-Low-fuel-warning-indicator-1967/

This is the only sender I'm aware of.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: ZLP955 on November 24, 2015, 09:26:32 AM
M&H Electric manufactures a couple of user-adjustable modules that allow you to dial in the warning light trigger point to suit the tank level at which you want to be warned. M&H's website (www.wiringharness.com) is not great from a user friendly point of view, but you can search by make, model and year and then scroll down the list to see the modules.
Here's a picture of the module I'll be getting in the near future, M&H part # 37651. This is for cars with console gauges (to replace the factory module), like the OP requested, but for those without, I believe they make a generic module to suit standard in-dash fuel gauges (part # 500274); but suggest anyone interested check direct with M&H.

Here's the console gauge version 37651
(http://www.wiringharness.com/images/parts/37651.jpg)

And the generic version 500274
(http://www.wiringharness.com/images/parts/500274.jpg)
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: X33RS on November 24, 2015, 12:46:24 PM
That's it, thank you sir.  I couldn't remember M&H Electric for the life of me and all the searches I did wasn't turning this up for some reason.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: L78 steve on November 24, 2015, 01:38:33 PM
Thats a must have item. My warning light works but not until gauge reads E.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: X33RS on November 24, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
Yep I always thought they were a little late myself.  And with my wife driving it I don't want her coming home telling me "oh the car needs gas" Only to find out I don't even have enough left to get back up to the station, lol.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: 69pace on November 24, 2015, 10:33:54 PM
The original Low Fuel Warning Modules were designed by GM for a time in history when every other street corner or major intersection had one if not two or more full service gas stations, so there was no real urgency to get to a station unlike these days where you might have to drive several miles to see a self-serve-no-service station.

As a side in my town there is only one major intersection left in town just as it was in the 1960 with three stations on three of the four corners. One even remains a very busy full service station.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: L78 steve on November 25, 2015, 12:14:32 AM
Have not seen a full service station since I saw Young Frankenstein at the drive in.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: X33RS on November 25, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
Used to use them all the time.  Had a few in town but my favorite was an old mom and pop Sohio station ran by an elderly couple.  Drove a 56 nomad daily and his wife would come out and fill it up.  She knew exactly where the gas fill was on the car.   The younger pups at other stations would walk around the car 2-3 times before finally asking me where it was.  After I told them, I then watched as they fiddled with it.  Eventually I had to get out and open it for them, lol.
   Did this right up into the late 80's and early 90's until eventually the larger chain stores ran them out of business.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: abiddle on November 25, 2015, 10:15:55 PM
Your Nomad story took me back. I worked at a full service station in the early 80s, barely old enough. We had to ask everyone to pop their hood so we could check their oil and fill the windshield washer fluid. Oil top-off was free if it didn't need a whole quart, but that top-off came from a jug of the run-offs from various prior "emptied" quarts. Windshield washer free fill-ups were only a small portion actual washer fluid, mostly water. We were supposed to check air in the tires, but we would skip asking if the owner wasn't watching. We had a deal if we couldn't find something immediately (gas cap, oil or whatever), we would grab a rag to act like we were doing something important and walk back into the shop and ask the old guy. This way we didn't look stupid. Of course the old guy made more fun of us than the car owner would I'm sure, but it made everyone feel good.

Half the folks that bought gas were on store credit. We would take their names and just put their total on a slip that the owner would add to their paper credit sheet. At the end of the month he would mail their bills. Each month we would have a list of no-pays, so if they came in for gas we would have to haggle with them to see if they would pay. One fill after a no-pay month was allowed, but after that we had to tell them no more gas. That created alot of drama.

Thanks for memory lane, wow.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: 69pace on November 26, 2015, 04:48:34 AM
We have three that have full time mechanics. Most of the gasoline island is designated self-service. CT law required that an attendant be on duty to aid those with health issues to pump gas. The law was intended for wheelchair users but anyone can say they can't leave the vehicle unassisted and they have to come out and pump gas. Most stations get around it buy having no real way for the customer to contact the staff apart from leaning on the horn. I miss the ding ding.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: ZLP955 on November 26, 2015, 08:56:39 AM
Wow, that takes me back. A Shell station in a nearby town has just employed a guy to pump gas for customers. I stopped there recently, and found that after all these years of self-service, I just prefer to do it myself..... Don't want to see the guy get fired, but I felt so uncomfortable with nothing to do!
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: X33RS on November 26, 2015, 01:42:26 PM
Yeah prefer to do it myself anymore.  So much so that I was shocked last time I drove through Oregon and got out to pump gas.  Apparently they have some law up there that you aren't allowed to pump your own gas.  I thought I was going to get tackled by the attendant, lol.   He quickly realized I was an out of towner and explained to me I wasn't allowed to do that.   I thought that was all very strange.  Not only do they pump it for you, but you aren't even allowed to touch it yourself.  I don't know if it's still like that or not, that's been a few years since I've been through there.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: L78 steve on November 26, 2015, 09:22:21 PM
NJ is the same.
Title: Re: adjustable fuel gauge module?
Post by: 69pace on November 28, 2015, 10:49:41 PM
Well in any event how you get your gasoline into the tank it is important to know when to go seek some and the M & H module is one of the best out there for automotive applications. In recent years a host of aftermarket kits sold on eBay have flooded the market but this is the best professional adjustable one out there. It tucks nicely under the 68-69 console and wires the same way the original module does.

There are three models for a reason. 1967 the factory LFWM send power out the Yellow lead to light the bulb. 1968 and 1969 the yellow supplied ground to light the light. You can't use a 68/69 on an existing factory 67 system.

The console gauge wiring version is if you wish to add the low fuel warning light option to any 67 without gauges or console, or 68-69 without saw tooth gauges or even a console. This all in one unit includes a light that gets power from the system pink in the modules harness and then yellow supplies the ground.

The standard 69 can be installed behind the dash and hook up to the rear of a 69 center pod or right pod fuel gauge and use the existing FUEL light socket on the dash with some scrap wire.

The same is possible with 67's and 68's but you may want to put an aux light somewhere on the dash since the 67/68 re purposed the OIL pressure warning lights if you had factory console and gauges. For 67's you may need the unit that supplies power to a socket.