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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: ko-lek-tor on August 18, 2015, 04:24:44 AM

Title: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: ko-lek-tor on August 18, 2015, 04:24:44 AM
When the firewall is painted black, the welded on loom which is rubber dip coated, just to the left of the trim tag , did it get painted or is it masked off?
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: Mike S on August 18, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
I'll check my '67 survivor and let you know later today unless someone chimes in sooner.

Mike
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: Dusk Blue Z on August 18, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
On my 69 it was spot welded on then painted with the firewall. The spot weld failed when I was removing the wires and there was no paint behind it.

Mike
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: Mike S on August 18, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
 I believe he wants to know if the rubber was painted as well....(I think)?

Mike
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: cook_dw on August 18, 2015, 01:13:13 PM
I would say yes..  But like Mike S; I can check once I am home..
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 18, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
I believe he wants to know if the rubber was painted as well....(I think)?
Mike

It would be very unlike the factory to install a part and then have to 'mask' it before painting whatever it was mounted to... so I would tend to believe if it was installed before the firewall was painted, then it was painted also during the blackout...  Attached is a photo of my firewall after I removed a few parts, so you can see these parts very well...
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on August 18, 2015, 02:18:45 PM
How convenient your car is (always) half apart to provide pictures for the rest of us Gary...... ;D

(that is a nice cropping of the PBT stamps buddy) ;)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: BillOhio on August 18, 2015, 02:36:45 PM
It is great of Gary to run out and look when we ask!!  Hes a good guy.
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: cook_dw on August 18, 2015, 02:38:39 PM
Trim tag looks fake..     ???



















































 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Kidding!!!
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 18, 2015, 02:46:19 PM
*L*   Perhaps...  the same faker who did  yours did mine too?   :)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 18, 2015, 02:48:52 PM
It is great of Gary to run out and look when we ask!!  Hes a good guy.

Actually Bill.. :) ..  I seldom (although sometimes I do) have to go out and look/photograph as it's very easy for me to dig thru my archive of photos and grab one that works.. :)   I have a 100 GB ext disk which gets all my photos and when I have time, I 'rename' them so they are searchable...!  :)

PS.  and when I do have to go take a photo to help someone, it's a short trip right downstairs to my basement.. :)..  and we are straying from Bentley's original question.   Bentley:  If I can do/photograph anything on my car that might help answer your question more *better*.. :) .. let me know.  (maybe check that part to see if there's black paint over the black rubber??)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 18, 2015, 02:59:32 PM
How convenient your car is (always) half apart to provide pictures for the rest of us Gary...... ;D

(that is a nice cropping of the PBT stamps buddy) ;)

Well, it's been 'half apart' for quite some time.. since I began disassembling/cleaning 3 or 4 yrs ago.  Currently the front clip is not yet re-installed, and I will re-ring/bearing my 302 before it's installed again.  and.. not all the parts from my dash have been reinstalled... and ALAS.. since I have a *few more* cars that need work, And I have a garage under construction that I'm trying to finish..  it will be awhile yet... :)   Maybe you and I can plan to take our Z's to a Nationals one of these days?? :)

PS.  Did you notice in that photo, the *faint* upside down 'T' down below the trim tag?   that was the reason I took that particular photo... I suspect the stamper (perhaps a 'new' guy).. put that one down poorly, then someone showed him how to do it.   Interestingly, I owned this car for 30 yrs before I even *noticed* those PTB stamps!  :)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on August 18, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
I will have my car at the nationals when Bentley brings his....
hopefully by then he will have sold me those tail pipes he is holding for ransom.... :'( ;D
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: BSMIT59 on August 18, 2015, 03:33:46 PM
It seems that everyone on here is very helpful and the pool of knowledge is neverending and usually very accurate and backed by hours of research. I am dumbfounded by the insight and help offered so freely from you guys. Finding this site when I bought my cars has been an unbelievable stroke of luck for me. I'm old and slow but one day I WILL finish these cars and make it to some of the future events. Thanks to all for your invaluable information. 

(By the way Gary, it's neat that your last four numbers in the vin are your model year!)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: BULLITT65 on August 18, 2015, 05:32:44 PM
Well we charge guys for the info all the time, its just that nobody pays.... :D


That is actually the last 4 digits of his body number( not the vin) . No charge for that info ;)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 18, 2015, 05:37:42 PM
...
(By the way Gary, it's neat that your last four numbers in the vin are your model year!)

:)  Yes, I took note of that also when I cleaned the trim tag so I could read it...  Just a lucky? turn of the numbers I suppose..?
I wonder how many others have such a 'numbers' coincidence in their VIN or body number?   the numbers '1967', '1968', and '1969' would reoccur every 10,000 cars... :)
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: ko-lek-tor on August 18, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
I swear, you guys! Looks like you all jumped all over this question.

Thanks, and let us come to a consensus. Like Gary, I cannot believe Chevy would take the time to mask off or use one of their famous 'coffee can' covers. This bit of minutia was prompted by a friend's pic of paint work he was having done on his 69.  His pic of  his car's firewall showed this loom masked off. Masked off, I say! I thought, why? Seems I recall paint on my rubber part of the loom, but, hey, as a young buck I was pretty much a maniac with the rattle can, lol.
So, I decided I wanted to get the low down.
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: hrascoll on November 23, 2015, 03:33:14 AM
my wire loom is missing. anybody know where I can find one.
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: ZLP955 on November 23, 2015, 07:49:45 AM
my wire loom is missing. anybody know where I can find one.
If you mean the steel bracket, mine was MIA and I got one from a parts car to spotweld back in place. Have never seen them repro'd.
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69 Zee on November 24, 2015, 05:19:42 AM
my wire loom is missing. anybody know where I can find one.
The easiest place to get any of those odd non repro parts is from any Classic car salvage yard.  Plenty of them out there.  Look for the locations where the weather may not be as harsh.

Case in point, I just recently bought the passenger side "A pillar post"  for another 69 I'm working on.  The entire post from dash to roof was $52 with shipping.  I bought it from "All American Classic"  and spoke with a gentleman named Forest.  He was very eager and pleased to help.
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: ZLP955 on November 24, 2015, 10:32:51 AM
Darrell is that the place up in Vancouver WA?
Title: Re: Welded on Wire/Hose Loom Next to Trim Tag
Post by: 69 Zee on November 24, 2015, 01:54:10 PM
Darrell is that the place up in Vancouver WA?
Yup !  They have several 1st gen Camaro's and Birds.  Just wish I lived closer than 3289.2 miles away.  I would love to walk it  ;D