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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: RobF on November 17, 2006, 05:01:49 PM

Title: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: RobF on November 17, 2006, 05:01:49 PM
1967 Camaro, SS350, 3 speed Man Trans

Does the pilot bushing (bronze) get installed flush with the crank surface around the hole  or should it be proud by Xmm???

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: hotrod68 on November 18, 2006, 07:16:29 AM
Knock it in until it won't go any farther. Dunno what 'proud by Xmm means.' Just seat it against the crankshaft. Good luck!
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: JohnZ on November 18, 2006, 06:03:35 PM
Before you install it, make sure the bushing doesn't attract a magnet - the correct bushings are made from Oilite bronze (non-magnetic). There are lots of cheap Chinese counterfeit bushings out there with iron in them than can score the end of the input shaft, and they'll attract a magnet. The correct Oilite bronze bushing is GM #10125896 or Federal-Mogul #PB-656-HD (F-M makes the GM bushing).
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: RobF on November 18, 2006, 06:21:27 PM
Thanks for the help!

My old pilot bushing was the Chinese type as it does attract a magnet. Based on the color of it, it almost looks like it was made out of plain old steel.  Luckily, the bushing has at most 1000 miles on it and the input shaft looks fine. 

I ended buying a LUK replacement clutch/pp (based on your rec JohnZ - thanks!) and the pilot bushing that was included with the kit is the correct Oilite.

Here is a good one for you.... I jacked up my Camaro the end of June, removed the trans/clutch in August, and I am finally getting around to replacing it now because the snow is coming soon (Michigan) and my wife wants to park in the garage again. I am getting too lazy in my old age!!
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: hotrod68 on November 19, 2006, 07:26:50 AM
What does 'proud by Xmm' mean? My ignorance is befuddling me.
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: JohnZ on November 19, 2006, 03:20:18 PM
What does 'proud by Xmm' mean? My ignorance is befuddling me.

He wanted to know if the face of the bushing should be flush with the hole in the crank or if it should protrude rearward by "x" number of millimeters. :)
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: RobF on November 19, 2006, 04:36:43 PM
... I was in "work mode" when I posted the question (Ford SVT engineer)!!


Thanks again for the help.
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: firstgenaddict on November 19, 2006, 10:38:54 PM
(Ford SVT engineer)!!
And he drives a 69 Camaro.
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: RobF on November 20, 2006, 01:44:36 PM
It is a 1967... purchased in 1979, before I started at Ford. Who can resist a first gen Camaro?????

Yep, I work in an office developing Camaro killers and yet I own one!!

My next project car will be a Ford... a '32 hot rod.
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: JohnZ on November 20, 2006, 02:57:20 PM
I was the Viper Plant Manager for six years before I retired, and I have a '67 Corvette and a '69 Camaro.  ;D
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: hotrod68 on November 21, 2006, 06:02:02 AM
Ahhhhh....I have always had a weakness for a '32 5-window coupe...with a Chevy engine, of course  lol 
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: RobF on November 21, 2006, 01:27:07 PM
I start drooling when I see a '32 (I prefer a 3 window) ... 3" chop, flat black and the meanest/loudest engine/exhaust.... the only problem is I would have to sell the Camaro to fund the hot rod, and the Camaro has been part of me for 27 years now.

Too many hot cars, not enough cash!
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: lakeholme on November 21, 2006, 08:59:55 PM
We're with you, RobF!  I love my Camaro, but any 30s Ford is a great temptation.  Of course, it's not just the cash for the car and resto.  You also have to have a place to store it!

You've got any easy job if you are trying to kill the upcoming Camaro.  GM will do most of your work for you, I'm afraid! Can you tell us what you have worked on???
Title: Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth??
Post by: hotrod68 on November 22, 2006, 05:07:04 AM
I've had my '68 for  going on 24 years, Rob. If I wasn't so in love with it I'd have a '32 5-window with a 427 and a Weiand blower, chuckle.  Pumpkin orange with 33" Mickeys out back and littles on the front and roll-pleated black interior. But I could never sell my '68. I'm in the middle of finishing an extension to my shop to put my '87 IROC in, so i can dig too many cars and not enough cash! Boy, Phil, you nailed it.