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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: Edgemontvillage on April 24, 2015, 05:14:47 PM

Title: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on April 24, 2015, 05:14:47 PM
I'm trying to locate information on assembly line correct shim(s) used on 1969 Rally Sport headlight buckets. There is a related CRG topic dealing with a 1968 RS however the thread does not specify if 1969 RS shims are the same or if there is more than one size.  Are they zinc or manganese phosphated? 

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Camaro%20Parts%20References/Camaro%20RS%20headlamp%20shim%203903452_zpsoyny2xy0.jpg)
Photo Credit: Bernie, Member: Bowtie6
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: big iron on April 24, 2015, 06:09:08 PM
# 3903452, dark phosphate and they are the same for all 3 years. Never seen an original picture of the shim in question so I do not know if the ones being sold on eBay and others have the original shape and thickness.
If anyone has pictures of original shims I am sure all on this forum would appreciate seeing them.
Bob
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: firstgenaddict on April 28, 2015, 01:22:13 PM
That looks just like the correct A-Arm shims for aligning the front end.
The originals do not have a hole in them.

Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: big iron on April 29, 2015, 01:10:27 AM
That looks just like the correct A-Arm shims for aligning the front end.
The originals do not have a hole in them.


The originals do not have a hole in them?
Bob
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: luv2sixty9 on April 29, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Lloyd,
I have never seen a 69 RS with shims on the headlight buckets. Were they really used?
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: 69Z28-RS on April 29, 2015, 02:18:20 PM
Where and why would 'shims' be used for the RS headlights?   The headlights have the same type of 'adjustment' as all headlights..... no shims necessary!
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: x77-69z28 on April 29, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
My 67 RS/SS has them. I don't remember if it was on the upper or lower bolts
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: big iron on April 29, 2015, 03:22:59 PM
Yes.
Headlight cover to center grill adjustment. Headlights are adjusted after covers are adjusted horizontally, vertically and parallel to the grill.
X77-69z28,
Could we see a picture of one of them?
Bob
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: 69Z28-RS on April 29, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
So are we referencing a shim for 'body adjustment (ie. HL covers) rather than the headlight buckets?
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: big iron on April 29, 2015, 03:46:39 PM
Yes, but few know that there is an adjustment. The 67 AIM Z22 B3.5, 68 AIM Z22 A15 and 69 AIM Z22 B3 show the adjustment.
Bob
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on May 11, 2015, 04:26:29 AM
Photo of installed RS headlight bucket shims (non orig):
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Non%20Public%20Album/RS%20Headlight%20Bucket%20Spacer_zpsbrmwzqjf.jpeg)
Photo Credit: Bernie, Member: Bowtie68iho
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on May 23, 2015, 06:34:34 PM
Here is a set of RS headlight bucket shims that were (LOS) factory installed.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Non%20Public%20Album/Brooklyn%20Z/RS%20Headlight%20Bucket%20Shims%20Highlighted_zps5jljo4ou.jpg)
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: HOT3O2 on May 23, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
The original shims off my car.
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: ko-lek-tor on May 23, 2015, 09:04:15 PM
Here is a set of RS headlight bucket shims that were (LOS) factory installed.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Non%20Public%20Album/Brooklyn%20Z/RS%20Headlight%20Bucket%20Shims%20Highlighted_zps5jljo4ou.jpg)


2 observations: I never recall the screw that goes through the bucket pictured being that long...interesting. And, those shims appear to be flat on top and not rounded like HOT302 shows and other examples, perhaps a LOS only shim and /or screw?
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on May 25, 2015, 02:18:55 AM
Excellent, thanks for posting Rick. Would be helpful if you would post a photo of the shim beside a ruler/tape to indicate the length. 
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: HOT3O2 on May 25, 2015, 04:39:49 PM
Excellent, thanks for posting Rick. Would be helpful if you would post a photo of the shim beside a ruler/tape to indicate the length.
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: HOT3O2 on May 25, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Excellent, thanks for posting Rick. Would be helpful if you would post a photo of the shim beside a ruler/tape to indicate the length.
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on May 25, 2015, 05:48:22 PM
Very helpful, thanks again Rick.
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on June 16, 2015, 04:25:05 PM
A couple of photos of the headlight buckets on my former 10 10 RS/Z. No shims were installed/needed.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Camaro%20Parts%20References/RS%20Hinge%2010%2010_zpsnabbiwrm.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Camaro%20Parts%20References/RS%20Hinge%2010%2010%203_zpsjunjru9d.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z396/edgemontvillage/Camaro%20Parts%20References/RS%20Hinge%2010%2010%202_zpskcbma9xu.jpg)
Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: Edgemontvillage on November 21, 2017, 05:58:21 PM
I attended the MCACN show in Chicago this past weekend and saw Mark B's LOS built 1969 RS/SS that was a candidate for Vintage Certification. This is an original car with no apparent previous front end damage. As shown in the photo below, the original RS headlight bucket shims appear to be similar to those in the photos posted by Rick (HOT302) albeit with a less angular shoulder.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4528/24693589018_00b1b8b145_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DC66GN) (https://flic.kr/p/DC66GN) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156633854@N02/)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4565/24693588728_9da6cc3fe4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DC66BN) (https://flic.kr/p/DC66BN)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156633854@N02/)



Title: Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
Post by: rod396 on November 22, 2017, 08:14:23 PM
I was trying to view the photo -?? Can someone direct me on this?
Thanks.