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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: daves87gn on April 05, 2015, 08:30:57 PM

Title: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: daves87gn on April 05, 2015, 08:30:57 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-camaro-engine-block-dz-302/331521892119?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29386%26meid%3D620a06b0278441368564d7ac96be95da%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D271829232373&rt=nc

thanks
Dave

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 05, 2015, 09:08:54 PM

Listing says...  "Stamped V0328DZ (march 28th 1969) fresh from the machine shop."

Paul

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: rick 67 on April 05, 2015, 09:54:59 PM

No partial vin, no ce code ?

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: z28z11 on April 06, 2015, 04:03:25 AM

Suspicious - fresh stamping, no broach marks visible anywhere on the pad near the numbers. Surface looks to be eroded, which makes the stamping look too obvious. Evidence of a previous stamp or a "bounce" strike with the gang stamp just above the Flint "V".

Missing VIN is a little odd, too - rare to see one without at least by this production date.

Regards

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: Hans L on April 08, 2015, 09:00:39 PM

Just for reference, my Z has the same assembly date - real stamp for reference:

(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/jwlittooy/DZ%20%20Engine%20and%20Components/EngineVINStampingI.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/jwlittooy/media/DZ%20%20Engine%20and%20Components/EngineVINStampingI.jpg.html)

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 09, 2015, 01:59:25 AM

For comparison...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/rkkAAOSwpDdVHzNT/$_57.JPG)

Paul

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: firstgenaddict on April 11, 2015, 08:12:54 PM

Yea, Han's pad and stamp show the characteristics typical of original stamps which haven't been tampered with.
Where as this other example has a pad surface which appears to be, if not physically eroded by either rust or acid, peened with a punch or hammer.
The pad surface appears to be uneven and/or irregular at best.
The impression of the actual stamp is VERY EVEN AND THE number PUNCHES do not appear to be worn at all... they are quite perfect additionally I might add there are several notable differences in the characters which although is not a disqualifier taken singularly when the remaining issues are taken into account it is Buyer Beware at BEST. 

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: Aussieracer on April 13, 2015, 01:17:40 AM

Nice Hans, mine is L529304, but don't have original engine, gearbox. Fathom Green with original everything else.

Phil

Title: Re: is this a real DZ stamp
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 14, 2015, 07:27:44 AM

Sold 4-13-15 for $1525.00

Paul