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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: FortLangleyBC on February 19, 2015, 03:38:39 AM

Title: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 19, 2015, 03:38:39 AM: Hello again -

I am still searching for a real 69 Z28.

Attached is a photo of a 69 Camaro engine pad stamp I am looking at - my concern is the font in the "1" of 15. Any comments on this stamp would be appreciated.

As well I have attached photos of the trim tag and engine VIN stamp for any comments.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: 6667ss138 on February 19, 2015, 03:54:49 AM: Your trim tag pic is to a different car.
VIN 124379L505995

http://www.catsexotics.com/web/used/Chevrolet-Camaro-1969-Lynnwood-Washington/1672361/

Be careful of this dealer. Here is another one they have for sale that has already been discussed.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=13098.msg111640#msg111640
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 19, 2015, 05:03:05 AM: Thank you - wrong photo - right one is attached.

Yeah - I read the other thread previously - thought I might check out is one anyway....
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: ko-lek-tor on February 19, 2015, 12:54:31 PM: Now who's confused about a TT FtLangleyBC? Seller thinks their Z is an SS/RS by TT pic descript. ? Lol, ...this is a rhetorical comment/question BTW.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: click on February 19, 2015, 03:53:56 PM: That car was built 146 cars after mine... here is my TT for comparison. I only have 2 thoughts about that car... 1st is the rubber gasket on the air cleaner is inside out, a common mistake. 2nd... why have they not given the block casting # info.?
My VIN was L 505849

(http://www.carsbyjim.com/storage/MiscStuff/69RStrimtag.JPG)
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: HOT3O2 on February 19, 2015, 07:13:09 PM: Hey Jim,

Just curios , how did you come up with "his car was build 146 cars after yours"?

Thanks, Rick
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on February 19, 2015, 07:17:50 PM: Quote from: Hot302 on February 19, 2015, 07:13:09 PM
Hey Jim,

Just curios , how did you come up with "his car was build 146 cars after yours"?

Thanks, Rick

L505995 - L505849 = 146! :)

Paul
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 19, 2015, 09:33:31 PM: Thanks for the comments :)

I had noticed the seller stated SS/RS & after looking at a couple of legit engine pad stamps received from today from JM, I am pretty sure this is a re-stamp.

Jim - fyi the engine block casting date is I 20 8.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: click on February 19, 2015, 09:52:18 PM: I was asking about the block casting number.... not the date... my block was 3932388 so Im curious what that block casting number is too. :)
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 19, 2015, 10:16:13 PM: No early cars were stamped on the oil filter boss and no late cars made in LOS someone has been stamping on the block.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 19, 2015, 10:25:00 PM: Jim - the engine casting number is 3932386.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: click on February 20, 2015, 02:54:37 PM: My partial VIN is stamped near the oil filter too but its so faint in the rough casting area that its not readable until the
engine is someday pulled out. The current owner of my RS will be messing with a possible new engine, LS1 maybe, and then he will be able to take pics of the partial VIN when it comes out.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: ZLP955 on February 21, 2015, 12:59:05 AM: Quote from: firstgenaddict on February 19, 2015, 10:16:13 PM
No early cars were stamped on the oil filter boss and no late cars made in LOS someone has been stamping on the block.
James I assume you mean no early NOR cars? I know of a documented LA Z/28 9L502xxx that has the partial down by the oil filter.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 22, 2015, 06:33:15 AM: I should never say never...
I am going to assume you mean the vin derivative has been documented by McNeish as a real stamp, not just the car is documented as real.

Would that be a 10A?
I had never heard of any stamping down on the rough casting before mid December prior to today, and every VIN derivative I have ever seen on a LA car was on the deck regardless of build dates from September through June.
I don't know how I missed that bit of information. at least it gives another place to check.
I have a friend with an early LA Z28 (October) I will tell him to check that location as well.

So what is the earliest the Vin has been found on the oil filter boss?
And from which plant?

Was there a reason for Van Nuys to move down then back to the deck before December?
Did Norwood do something similar?
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: ZLP955 on February 22, 2015, 08:51:55 AM: Never seen one either, until this one. Now I cannot say for sure if JM has inspected the car, but Kurt is aware of it. I will ask owner. It's an 09D car, Hugger Orange, narrow rear stripes, and by 'documented' I meant it has PoP, window sticker, sales receipt, owner's manual, warranty paperwork, every single receipt, owner's handwritten tune-up notes and service records from new. Bought from Fred Gledhill Chevrolet, spec'd with 4.10 posi, VE3, vigilite, AM/FM, console with gauges, deluxe black interior and more. Block is V0913DZ, never rebuilt, still had grease pencil marks on block between freeze plugs and on heads. Has original ADs with Wide Tread GTs. Last on road in 1987.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: KurtS on February 23, 2015, 12:11:50 AM: I think the pad is original.
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 23, 2015, 06:16:34 AM: Quote from: KurtS on February 23, 2015, 12:11:50 AM
I think the pad is original.
What is the story on the VIN derivative being on the rough casting in Sept, are there more of these noted?
Title: Re: Another 1969 Z28??
Post by: KurtS on February 23, 2015, 06:22:38 AM: Yes. LOS stamps moved throughout the year.