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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: FortLangleyBC on February 13, 2015, 06:17:09 PM

Title: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 13, 2015, 06:17:09 PM
Good afternoon -

I am looking at purchasing a 1969 Camaro SS396.

The trim tag indicates first week of December production (12A - photo attached).

The VIN number indicates that the car was assembled on or about November 28 - definitely last week of November. (VIN - 124379N5499XX)

Does this confirm that the trim tag is not for this car?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated - thank you!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: 69Z28-RS on February 13, 2015, 07:57:11 PM
IMO, that does not mean it's *wrong*.   The trim tag 'week of production' is an estimate, but other factors can come into play which affect the exact production date.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: cook_dw on February 13, 2015, 08:01:16 PM
(http://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_eek2.gif) 12A with X codes...  (http://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/huh.gif)

Repop tag.(http://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/whip.gif)

But one of the experts can chime in and verify.  I am certainly not one of them.


 Clicky (http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml)


1969 Cowl Tag - X Codes
The Xnn codes were a mid-1969 model addition to the Fisher Body cowl tags of Norwood-built Camaros, starting with the 12B (second week of December) build week. (CRG has found 12B cars both with and without these codes. Our data for all cars in prior weeks is absent this code, and our data for all cars in weeks following contain this code.) These codes were an aid for Fisher body assembly workers to identify body trim and paint changes required for different Camaro models. The codes are divided into two groups: those with the Z21 style trim option and those without the Z21 style trim option.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: Kelley W King on February 13, 2015, 08:05:36 PM
My 12A cars vin is over 1000 past that one and has no X code.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: jdv69z on February 13, 2015, 08:22:33 PM
I have observed VIN's in the 5525xx range with 11D Tags.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: bergy on February 13, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
always look closely at 10-10 tags...with 729 too!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: 6667ss138 on February 13, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
Smart man for checking in before buying!!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: ko-lek-tor on February 13, 2015, 11:33:05 PM
(http://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_eek2.gif) 12A with X codes...  (http://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/huh.gif)

Repop tag.(http://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/whip.gif)

But one of the experts can chime in and verify.  I am certainly not one of them.


 Clicky (http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml)


1969 Cowl Tag - X Codes
The Xnn codes were a mid-1969 model addition to the Fisher Body cowl tags of Norwood-built Camaros, starting with the 12B (second week of December) build week. (CRG has found 12B cars both with and without these codes. Our data for all cars in prior weeks is absent this code, and our data for all cars in weeks following contain this code.) These codes were an aid for Fisher body assembly workers to identify body trim and paint changes required for different Camaro models. The codes are divided into two groups: those with the Z21 style trim option and those without the Z21 style trim option.


From OP, "Any advice would be greatly appreciated - thank you!"
How fast can you run? 'Cause I'd get far, far away from that.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 13, 2015, 11:40:29 PM
Thank you all for such quick responses - great new intel for me on the 12B start of the X codes!

FYI - The guy selling this car bought it at Barrett Jackson LV in 2011. I don't think he knows the issue with the trim tag & VIN. He paid +/- USD$74k & is asking CDN$80k.

Based on the replies above - I won't be purchasing the car - thanks again!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: z28z11 on February 13, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Smart move. I'm late in ressponding due to being out of town all week this and last, but my 12A L78 is 3800 cars past this one with no X code.

Wish it did - it's in the missing paperwork gap for the build date and dealer. No real way to tell if it's an X66 or X22, either.

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 14, 2015, 02:45:26 AM
Thanks Steve - I appreciate the response
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: Boston14 on February 16, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
My 11D RS/SS Convertible is a 5525..  car
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: FortLangleyBC on February 16, 2015, 04:11:29 PM
Hi Boston14 -

Does your tag have an X code?
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date
Post by: Boston14 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
Nope