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Title: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: dannystarr on January 07, 2015, 05:54:52 AM
Will 15" X 7" Rally wheels clear everything on my '68 Camaro at stock height? Want to have an extra set, then put on originals for shows etc.
The tires are P265/50SR15 Dunlop GT Qualifier Radials. What say you?... Danny
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: vtfb68 on January 08, 2015, 08:37:30 PM
Danny,
  I deceided to keep you company! I would guess that the responses are few becuse there are a few factors to consider, Easy answer is yes. however not all 265.50.15's are the same size, stuffed wheels look awsome stopped but not always good for daily driving. If the springs/bushings are weak/sagging there will be lots of side shift causing rubbing to the inside of the fender wells. a full tank or passangers will lower your car a couple of inches. I have 295 50 15's euro T/A's tucked in my 68 with un-cut wheel mouldings (Multi-leaf springs with Anson ground grabbers,- bolt is in) The rims are 15 x 8 with a 4.5" back space. The only rub I have had was a bad dip on the 405 freeway at high speed. They must have rubbed the tops of the fender wells as there was no markings on the tires. Hope this helps.
     Victor
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: 69Z28-RS on January 08, 2015, 09:02:17 PM
My answer would be: 

"The wheels themselves will fit fine, but you'd better check the tires if you go with large sizes like this..."   :)
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on January 08, 2015, 09:09:43 PM
Lot on this topic in Team Camaro--be advised more meat will fit under a 69 then 67/68.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: dannystarr on January 09, 2015, 07:45:52 AM
Ok,
 I figured it wasn't a slam dunk. And thank you men for getting me started. I will decide what to do. Don't even know if they are still for sale... D
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: x66 714 on January 09, 2015, 01:30:11 PM
I used to rum FW rally wheels on my 68 years ago before I restored it. I had no problems with the wheels. You might find a p series tire that would have the same rolling diameter as the E70-15 with the correct width....Joe
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 09, 2015, 01:39:18 PM
One factor for sure as many have advised is the tire size especially in the front as tire will rub when turning hard left or right. Old school but I still like the nostalgia look of slim wheels in the front and then the larger 15X7 or even a 15X8 with a larger tire if it fits in the back.
Have fun and know you are!
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on January 09, 2015, 03:11:28 PM
Jano,
225/60/15 all around. No rubs!  ( JonZ68)---take a look :D  I like.

Currently I have 255-70R15's in the rear ( fills well nice with no interference) 195-70R15's in the front. on the original DF's. Slight rake ,liked the look. Never was a fan of those huge meats sticking out the wheel wells. Don't like tubbed cars. (mini tubbed are cool!)

My slick is a MT  28x9x15 on 8" rally.  no rubs. (posted wrong size on another thread)




Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: JohnZ on January 09, 2015, 04:21:15 PM
I used to rum FW rally wheels on my 68 years ago before I restored it. I had no problems with the wheels. You might find a p series tire that would have the same rolling diameter as the E70-15 with the correct width....Joe

The 215/65-15 is about as close as you're going to get to the original E70-15 size appearance-wise; the E70 was 26.4" in diameter, and the 215/65 is 26.0". My all-original '69Z (stock springs) had 235/60-15 T/A's on it when I bought it, and both fronts rubbed at 12 o'clock. I swapped them out for a set of 215/65 T/A's, and no more rubbing.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: dannystarr on January 09, 2015, 09:06:22 PM
Here is the ad.. I think I better just try to find another set of 15" X 6". I was just excited cause this set-up has rims, tires, trim rings, and center caps reatogo.. D

     http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/4830061882.html
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on January 09, 2015, 09:07:17 PM
Metric to Standard Result:                                
195/70/15 = 25.7x7.7/15         me fronts
265/50/15 = 25.4x10.4/15       your tires of interest                
255/70/15 = 29.1x10/15          me rears

235/60/15 = 26.1x9.3/15          rubbed per John Z

215/65/15 = 26x8.5/15             John Z running now

225/60/15 = 25.6x8.9/15        JonsZ68 (white 68 SS clone/tribute...nice car, reports no rubs)


a few numbers to ponder










Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on January 09, 2015, 09:13:32 PM
http://enthusiast.yearone.com/faqs/wheels-tires-brakes/tire-conversion-chart/

just happened upon this
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on January 09, 2015, 09:17:27 PM
Metric to Standard Result:
205/70/15 = 26.3x8.1/15
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: 69Z28-RS on January 09, 2015, 09:20:33 PM
Here is the ad.. I think I better just try to find another set of 15" X 6". I was just excited cause this set-up has rims, tires, trim rings, and center caps reatogo.. D

     http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/4830061882.html

One advantage of 15x7 wheels, besides their width compared to your 15x6's, is their availability.   The 15x7  Rallye wheels (FW code) were used on Monte carlos etc through the '70's and are much easier to find, and MUCH cheaper to buy... :)
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 09, 2015, 11:12:47 PM
Here is the ad.. I think I better just try to find another set of 15" X 6". I was just excited cause this set-up has rims, tires, trim rings, and center caps reatogo.. D

     http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/4830061882.html

One advantage of 15x7 wheels, besides their width compared to your 15x6's, is their availability.   The 15x7  Rallye wheels (FW code) were used on Monte carlos etc through the '70's and are much easier to find, and MUCH cheaper to buy... :)

True Gary and there were a lot of 15X6 service replacement wheels made (70's & 80's) also that of course do not have a DF stamp and can be purchased fairly inexpensive.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: dannystarr on January 10, 2015, 06:26:28 AM
Well I have been checking online every morning and every night for months and have not found what I need. Maybe I will look for the 15" X 7" and just put thinner tires on them. I eventually want to purchase Repro Good Year Wide Tread GT's. But at almost $350 a pop... OUCH!! Anybody know of a good deal? I was talking to Chick on the phone a few days ago and he mentioned he got a great deal. Maybe he has found that company where he purchased his.... However that may have been years ago, I can't remember... Danny
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on January 10, 2015, 12:57:24 PM
not sure what you are looking for now ?  The tires on Craigslist were a bit bigger than E-70's. 6" rims only ? Are the tires on the car now original to it ? If not , why not just order the tires you want and have the mounted on your wheels ?? I put my originals back on 26 years ago, with new tires,  and that's what the cars rolling on now. High quality wheels, true, and no slow leaks at the bead. Irreplaceable ? yea,but so is everything else hanging off of and including the chassis.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: Jonz68 on January 13, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
Danny,
I have an almost new set of the "Firestone Wide Oval 60's", (which are equivalnet to: 235/60/15) I would consider selling at a fair price.
Not sure where you are though......(I am in Northern VA) but just throwing it out there. They look awesome on these cars, IMO.....perhaps better than any OEM tire.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 on January 14, 2015, 09:49:46 PM
I ran 225x60's on the front & 255x60's on the rear with FW 15x7 rally wheels with no rubbing on my 68. I am going back with the same thing again once the car is finished, in fact I have already ordered the tires.  ;D
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: JohnZ on January 15, 2015, 07:25:30 PM

I have an almost new set of the "Firestone Wide Oval 60's", (which are equivalnet to: 235/60/15) I would consider selling at a fair price.

What size are they? Every tire has its size molded into the sidewall, by law.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: dannystarr on April 07, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
OK, SO, I now have 4 - 15" X 7" rally wheels FW code in hand. They were painted metallic silver, so I am hot tanking all 4 of them as I type this. So my speedo is accurate, and the tires don't look funny/skinny from the back. What's a nice tire size to meet visual and speedo functional needs? I will be running Cooper Radials and want it to look close to factory stock, NOT a hotrod look. P225/60R15's? Then I can take my 5 DF rally's and evaporust them and install Good Year E-70 15 's, and be ready for shows... Danny
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on April 08, 2015, 12:30:58 AM
check this out:http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7&s_kwcid=AL!3756!10!3780142808!30251388067&ef_id=VSR17QAABGXq1r7H:20150408002725:s

also search on Team Camaro, lots of info on this topic
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on April 08, 2015, 12:33:05 AM
just copy then paste in your browser.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: dannystarr on April 08, 2015, 01:31:58 AM
I tried it and got this on google.

   Your search - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7&s_kwcid=AL!3756!10 ... - did not match any documents.
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: cook_dw on April 08, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
Try this. :)

 Click ME!!! (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7&s_kwcid=AL!3756!10!3780142808!30251388067&ef_id=VSR17QAABGXq1r7H:20150408002725:s)
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 08, 2015, 04:53:33 PM
Hey Danny can you post a pic of your DF wheels before and after the evaporust. thanks
Title: Re: 15" X 7" Rallys clear everything on a '68
Post by: janobyte on April 08, 2015, 11:41:40 PM
Try this. :)

 Click ME!!! (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7&s_kwcid=AL!3756!10!3780142808!30251388067&ef_id=VSR17QAABGXq1r7H:20150408002725:s)

yup, that's the site