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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: mls68z28 on January 05, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
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http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/4790131622.html
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Not bad could be something if the numbers are verified. Looks to be originally frost green with a dark green interior. I am guessing that would dictate black stripes? Possibly a no spoiler car as well.
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Not bad could be something if the numbers are verified. Looks to be originally frost green with a dark green interior. I am guessing that would dictate black stripes? Possibly a no spoiler car as well.
Those colors are nice.... Where's the fella who had the rusty car needing a body for his drivetrain???
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The guy who posted the ad on craigslist, says he has the original drivetrain.
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I email them asking for pics of the block, trans and rear stampings. If all is matching that could be a steal specially if there's more parts as well.
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I email them asking for pics of the block, trans and rear stampings. If all is matching that could be a steal specially if there's more parts as well.
Follow up.. owner must not be in a hurry to sell. He responded back to my request with only.. "yes it's definitely a numbers matching and yes I have the interior"... still waiting for pics.
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Hopefully they are clear pics by the time you get them.
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Here's the new Craigslist link...
http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/4833363145.html
Paul
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It's advertised on Camaros.net also.
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I believe it's off both of the other 2 sites (I couldn't find) and now on ebay at $15 K. Oddly cause I've asked several times for pics of the #'s with no response. Ironically the only pic showing a number is the block and it's blurry..just saying ! ;D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-1969-chevrolet-camaro-x-33-matching-dz-302-muncie-4-speed-z-28-project-/201265627665?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2edc5dc211&vxp=mtr
IMO..if it's all there and truly matching I think his earlier asking price of $19K would be a steal.
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Is it me or is he showing pics of the VIN on the pad and down by the oil filter on this block?
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It is shown on the pad and the oil filter boss...
The 12C X66 Norwood I have been working on has it's VIN by the Oil Filter, was Norwood alternating the locations for the VIN by mid January?
Shouldn't the Transmission have a A B C on it, the assembly date is Oct 22, I thought the cut off was before Oct 20th.
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Rick, I think you are right. The very next picture after he shows the VIN on the pad.
VIN 124379N586332
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At $16,100 and holding with no reserve. Guess at closing it'll jump up. The owner told me that "yes the VIN is stamped in both places" and that he's seen it in both places before on other Camaro's and a Chevelle he once owned. Has anyone else ever seen a block punched twice in the two locations ? ..I guess it could happen, not sure why though. I know it's just around the corner from when GM was to of switched locations.
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My first suspicion at this point is that a past owner, not knowing the VIN was stamped above the oil filter, had the VIN stamped into the pad... I know when I bought my car, and didn't see the VIN stamped (as other cars I'd owned) on the pad, I *wondered* should I stamp it in myself.. I Now am very glad that I didn't do anything so stupid.. :)
Of course it's also possible that someone 'new' or forgetful' in the stamping station of the plant stamped it in the 'old' place, and then someone informed him, or he remembered, to stamp it in the 'new' location as well.
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My first suspicion at this point is that a past owner, not knowing the VIN was stamped above the oil filter, had the VIN stamped into the pad... I know when I bought my car, and didn't see the VIN stamped (as other cars I'd owned) on the pad, I *wondered* should I stamp it in myself.. I Now am very glad that I didn't do anything so stupid.. :)
Of course it's also possible that someone 'new' or forgetful' in the stamping station of the plant stamped it in the 'old' place, and then someone informed him, or he remembered, to stamp it in the 'new' location as well.
Seems like every stamping discussed here anymore is either an exception or some kind of assembly line mistake? Uh huh.
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Maybe one of the guys from "echoes of Norwood" could answer this one?
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Has anyone else ever seen a block punched twice in the two locations ?
No.
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This car is back and now restored. Says 4 - wheel disc? Typo? Anyone EVER determine if it was a Born-With drive train? .. Danny
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-97/
Listing Details
Chassis: 124379N586332
222 Miles Shown, TMU
302ci V8
M22 4-Speed Manual Transmission
Green Paint w/Black Stripes
Green Vinyl Upholstery
Front & Rear Spoilers
Cowl Induction Hood
15" Rally Wheels
Power Four-Wheel Disc Brakes
Power Steering
Center Console w/Aux Gauges
Walnut Steering Wheel
Hurst Shifter
Retro-Style Digital Stereo
Service Records
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Photos of the body in process shows no Muncie speedo cable holes.
Could be toe pan was replaced.
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Did any one save images from the op listing, or reply #7 ? are they from before the car was restored ? Be interesting to see.
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So the block stamp was mentioned, but I haven't heard anyone chime in as far as it looking like an original stamp or original to this car? The trans is not original and the rear was assembled after the car was built, and then more recently disc brakes were added to it. Also of the sandblast pics it appears the RS package was added. The trim tag appears original though. Seems like Williams observation on the hole for the speedo cable may be a key piece of info
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And most of all - that damn cowl induction seal is upside down!!! >:(
Drives me absolutely nuts!!!! Nuts I say!!!!! lol
and - good catch William- never would have looked for that.
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https://www.2040-cars.com/chevrolet/camaro/1969-z28-camaro-x33-418369/
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Hilarious Ad in my opinion,,,,,,,,,,Good Luck
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Thanks for the Link Jim. Definitely paints a picture of all the work that went into the restoration.
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I hope whoever considers this mess, finds their way to this thread first.
My take on this thing when I first saw it was...."this one stinks"...
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Elvis has left the building….not on eBay anymore.
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*FYI the car is on BAT not Ebay:https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-97/
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Engine V1203DZ is a bit early for this car. VIN is not a factory stamping. In the one pic of the engine, it shows the pad in bare metal without heads on it from a distance. To me, it looks like someone tried to replicate broach marks by sanding the pad and you can see the sand marks going back around the cylinder. Rear-end stamping BT0214G2 is after the car was built so its not original. RS was added and confirmed by original pic of the car without RS. Starting to look like it was a real Z but was pieced together with parts to get it back together again.
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When the guy bought the car last time it was for sale needing to be restored the ad said "no engine"