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Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars => 1969 - Orphans => Topic started by: RonnieJ on December 15, 2014, 11:14:12 PM
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Trying to reunite the shortblock with it's car. VIN is 9Nxxx007
http://desmoines.craigslist.org/pts/4799006246.html
The ad reads :
Don't get too excited. I was able to get the original engine to my Z and I am passing my old spare shortblock on. I want to try to reunite this with it's original car if it still exists. Partial VIN is 9NXXX007. Pad is V0310DZ. Cast C-4-9. I got this 25 years ago from a local car guy who worked at a Chevy dealer in SW Iowa when these were new. He said the car came in for warranty work and the shortblock was swapped out due to a spun rod bearing. This is just as it was, it hasn't been rebuilt, but it has been stored in a heavy plastic bag and isn't all rusty. Anyway, he somehow got this out the back door. I wasn't there, don't debate with me that it was unlikely, I don't care. Now - contact me ONLY if you own this car, or know where this car is. To get this you must provide airtight proof. I want a photo of the VIN tag, at least 1 hidden VIN and the title. If you can complete the VIN, prove it still exists and prove it's yours, we will work something out. Email only at this point.
Contact Ronnie at 392hemi@outlook.com
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How would someone prove they own a car that the vin ends in 007, must only be several thousand of them in that time frame, would have been better off with the front half or front 4 of the vin.
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How would someone prove they own a car that the vin ends in 007, must only be several thousand of them in that time frame, would have been better off with the front half or front 4 of the vin.
Should have given the first 3 because with a pad date of 0310 you can figure the whole vin would be 615007
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How would someone prove they own a car that the vin ends in 007, must only be several thousand of them in that time frame, would have been better off with the front half or front 4 of the vin.
How many of them are Z-28s ? I have the numbers and if they do too and can prove it then it's a match. How do you prove it ? That's all in the ad. Too many emails to sift through, I guess we will see.
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How would someone prove they own a car that the vin ends in 007, must only be several thousand of them in that time frame, would have been better off with the front half or front 4 of the vin.
Should have given the first 3 because with a pad date of 0310 you can figure the whole vin would be 615007
Sorry, that's not it. In reality that leaves 999 possible combinations and how many of them were Z-28s ? Knowing it's a March / April car knocks that down by over 1/2 of that. With a VIN of 007 that would stand out more than the first 3 numbers.
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Oh, I know the guy who owns that car. Bond. James Bond. :)
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I hope that is what jogs somebody's memory. I had a guy, Brian I think, said he was from this site email me thinking he might know the car. He said its been a dragster forever. Somebody else contacted me with the right vin, but no contact since. I don't trust craigslist email, so I'm hoping either the guy with the number or the guy from here sees this and gets back ahold of me. If not, I'll keep trying or haul this thing to the junk.
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Why the secrecy on the entire partial VIN, if you'd require proof of car's identity before selling the block, and then make the throw-away comment that you'd junk it if the current owner doesn't appear?
If the original car is long gone, as the owner of another Z you must realise that block still has solid value to the right buyer as NOM but date and suffix-correct, that is of course if it's as described.
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I suppose your right. If I get proof then it doesn't matter if everyone knows the vin. Ive never done this before and I was trying to be careful. Too many cheats and thieves in the car business so unless somebody had the right numbers I wouldn't know if they were legit. I also wanted it to be private between the owner and me not plastered all over the internet any more than it needs to be. Does that make sense ? I hope I don't regret this but the vin is 9N627007.
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Hmm, could this be the block that goes to this former race car discussed on the Yenko site???
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/586453/4
Of corse there is a mystery surrounding the cars vin and trim tag, so the block now turning up may not help matters.... :P
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Hmm, could this be the block that goes to this former race car discussed on the Yenko site??
Nice catch Austin...I wonder if this will help to solve the mystery of the "Hog Wild" trim tag. Earlier in this thread I threw out that based on the pad date the vin might start with start with 615. Looking at it again 615 might be early but 616 or 617 makes way more sense then 627. I spent a little time researching early March DZ motors when I was trying to figure out what date my 3B vin 614xxx should have. My best guess for my car ended up being 0304. By vin 617xxx DZ dates were already 0312. From my admittedly small sample seems to me a vin of 627007 should have a motor somewhere around 0325. For instance vin 627703 is 0325. Hmmm indeed...
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my 625XXX block is dated 0328
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Kurt, this just might be a mystery only James Bond can solve. 007
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I want to thank whoever contacted the guy with the car, he sent me a message and it looks like a done deal. He is only a couple hours away, so I just might deliver it and see the car to make sure. Thank you for your help. Merry Christmas to you all.
Ronnie
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I sent him a PM over on yenko,
so I think that would be me...."your welcome" . My finders fee is original/nos 69 Camaro parts..... :D
I couldn't have made the match until you posted the whole VIN.
So thank you.
So CRG thats another orphan that found an original body. What do we have like 5 to 10,000 of the original 20,302 Z cars left to go?
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Glad you provided the entire VIN sequence number Ronnie, and that this looks like it might work out as a win-win situation.
Gives me hope that my block may turn up again someday.
Austin, did you search the VIN, or recall the details from the "Hog Wild" thread over at sYc?
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I know Kurt had some concern about the cars numbers, trim tag etc.
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Very cool! Early Xmas present😃😄😀😍
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Glad you provided the entire VIN sequence number Ronnie, and that this looks like it might work out as a win-win situation.
Gives me hope that my block may turn up again someday.
Austin, did you search the VIN, or recall the details from the "Hog Wild" thread over at sYc?
I had read that thread over at Yenko, but seems like every other Z story contains a missing motor. So no I didn't put it together that way. I read the CRG story and once he posted the complete number, I started doing searches on the web with different combinations of 9n627007, n627007, and so on then after a little while came to that thread. ( It is fun to look sometimes) Another CRG-er probably would have found it if I didn't. ;)
After re-reading it I felt kinda sorry for the guy considering there is so much speculation around the numbers on the car. But now if they can figure out the timeline, this car may be worth the time and effort to do a full resto on, now that it may get the original block back.
Keep the faith your block (s) are out there, some may have been put into a clone waiting to be discovered, or under a guys bench, but keep searching guys!
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I don't know the story, but if he had speculation before imagine it now that he has THE block. All the experts will know it's a restamp. GOOD for you, RonnieJ!! Wish someone would have my original block.
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I don't know the story, but if he had speculation before imagine it now that he has THE block. All the experts will know it's a restamp. GOOD for you, RonnieJ!! Wish someone would have my original block.
Doug, the car being discussed at sYc is a race car missing it's original engine, not a car with a re-stamped block. The owner posted pictures of the car back in the day, and after being brought out of 20+ years storage, hoping someone could fill gaps in it's history. The car has an X77 tag that was questioned because of the spread of dates relating to tag build/schedule week, vin and body number. Interesting thread, well worth a read.
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Hopefully the original engine will bridge the gap with some of that information for the car. Once the car is verified or the owner is satisfied it is correct, another question would be - Do you restore it to its glory days as a track car? or back to somewhat stock?
We will see if he goes back to the small block platform...
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the hole shot pic:
(plus it is a special paint car, so who knows what color is underneath the newer paint on it now)
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Ronnie,
Can you post or email me a picture of the engine pad?
Thanks!
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Sorry, I don't have one and dont think I could figure out how to get it on here. Me and computers have never gotten along. If it wasnt for my nephew helping me I'd have never gotten this far. I ran the motor over to Dave on Thursday and since everyone seems to know him, I'm sure he can get you what you want. I really liked seeing the car that this motor came from, it made this old heart feel good. That thing has just sat under my workbench for so long. It was nice to meet him and see all of his cars and parts. I expected a garage at his house and it was I suppose, but its across the street and I swear he has the whole dang block. He even has a few railroad cabooses sitting in the yard. He has Camaros everywhere, Ive never seen anything like it. The shop is huge, he has a machine shop, a welding shop, a sheetmetal shop, a wood shop and he does media blasting. Lord almighty. He is finishing a upstairs area for storage and boy is it nice. He showed me some of his other pats he has squirreled away and I saw things I'd only seen in magazines. He even has one of those 2-4 setups for a Camaro. He called it his hotel California where stuff checks in but it never leaves. I asked him what he did for a living and he said he was retired and now this is his toy box. He is too young to be retired. I'm 67 and still working, he is barely 50! If I had that place nobody would ever see me again. I'd better shut up now and say that I think my motor is in good hands. Thank to everyone who helped you really made this old mans day.
Ronnie
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Ronnie,
Our Thanks to you for caring enough to effect the re-uniting... :) It would have been much easier for you to just run a for sale ad on your local Craig's list.. but you made an effort and did something good! Congratulations!
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Great job, Ronnie!!! :)
Great job, CRG Orphans Section!!! ;)
Paul
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I just read this and probably could have helped. My 03D is 620xxx with engine date of 0307. My dads birthday!