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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: bergy on September 21, 2014, 12:38:19 AM
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I spent some time with the owner of this car at a show today. He says that it's original engine. I haven't studied a lot of SB stamps. What do the experts think? It's a cool car - RS, factory cowl plenum, 42k original miles, factory docs., original panels.
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sorry that it's upside down. Here's the car
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this guy saved everything - smog, original air cleaner. Says that cowl plenum came in the trunk when new?
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Really bad restamp
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Can you send me the original of the engine pad? I'll post an improved version of it....
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PLenum and header were available in trunk when new... McNeish has a documented low mile one... pushed the Z28 option price to double the base.
Bergy,
Is it code E? Fathom? There was a Fathom blue 68 Z at MCACN last year that was awesome.
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Bruce, was the guy's name Paul? The car was his son's correct? I looked at the car at the last show we were at together (you probably never saw it as he left on the early side) and the pad seemed correct to me both in broach marks and stamping but I'm no expert. The cowl plenum was the real deal but had a repro rubber sleeve. He gave me his name and address as I wanted to look the car over more closely. Nice to look for things on real Z/28's and of course, got to love those 68 Z/28's.... :)
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Can't get the pic's much better. Never seen a baby "MO" stamp like that, and all crooked??? Guess I am about to learn something... Danny
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Can't get the pic's much better. Never seen a baby "MO" stamp like that, and all crooked??? Guess I am about to learn something... Danny
I may have been to quick to label it a restamp.I bet your right that were going to learn something here. Never seen a hand stamped MO before. Its so bad that I cant help but wonder if its some kind of factory correction, everything else on the pad looks good.
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Bruce, was the guy's name Paul? The car was his son's correct? I looked at the car at the last show we were at together (you probably never saw it as he left on the early side) and the pad seemed correct to me both in broach marks and stamping but I'm no expert. The cowl plenum was the real deal but had a repro rubber sleeve. He gave me his name and address as I wanted to look the car over more closely. Nice to look for things on real Z/28's and of course, got to love those 68 Z/28's.... :)
I need to clarify something here.... :) The stamping looked OK to me but not referring to the MO that apparently was hand stamped of course for some reason. Our MO was built 10 days after this one and much of the assembly build date stamp looks the same. It for sure is interesting as I never saw a MO like that but again the rest seemed to fit the bill. I took a picture of it with my cell phone but not much better than what Bruce showed.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/12D68Z2_zps88e92a2b.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/12D68Z2_zps88e92a2b.jpg.html)
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Someone mounted the alternator like a Pontiac. :P
Paul
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Alternator is mounted in the smog pump mounting bracket. ???
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Someone mounted the alternator like a Pontiac. :P
Paul
Little backyard innovation. I do not know how sturdy the mount was on the Kustom headers ,but personally I hate the after market brackets, (pre 69 set up) always an issue with bending, cracking and header leaks. Looks..??.., but a functional solution was found utilizing what they had. Credit due.
Interested on hearing a little more about the car.
Can't make out driver's , wrong passenger head ,accessory holes. Late in the year?
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Low mileage '68 Z? Sounds like everyone's got one. ;)
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Low mileage '68 Z? Sounds like everyone's got one. ;)
CORRECTION: Low mileage '68 Z? Everyone wants one! :)
Paul
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Low mileage '68 Z? Sounds like everyone's got one. ;)
CORRECTION: Low mileage '68 Z? Everyone wants one! :)
Paul
X2! And I had been told the car only had 19 thousand some miles on it by a local who knew of the car.
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I emailed the full size picture over to Kurt for posting - should bring a lot of clarity to the stamp pad.
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scratch that , just looked at the view by the stamp.
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Here's a cropped and rotated version of the pad.
What color is the car?
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What's with the two different 3's in the VIN? The one on the right looks like it was done with a handheld engraver. Sure looks pretty beat up overall for only 19K miles. I would have to see it right in front of me, AND with the POP in my hand.. Danny
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Kurt, what say you in regards to the pad?
Paul
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Are there legit examples of hand stamped MO's in the date base?
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Kurt - picture of car exterior is shown in the second post on page 1 of this thread
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Here's a cropped and rotated version of the pad.
What color is the car?
Fathom Blue Not too many that color!
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I saw the pic of the car. I'd guess Fathom Blue, but I've been wrong on shades of blue before.
It's the strangest stamp I've seen, but I think it's real. Never seen one like that.
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I saw the pic of the car. I'd guess Fathom Blue, but I've been wrong on shades of blue before.
It's the strangest stamp I've seen, but I think it's real. Never seen one like that.
Kurt, here is a better picture we took of engine pad this afternoon.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Survivors/100_9894_zps584d1c79.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Survivors/100_9894_zps584d1c79.jpg.html)
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Same color as my 68z. Very rare only on early cars built before Jan. The fathom blue z at MCACN was mine. John
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Same color as my 68z. Very rare only on early cars built before Jan. The fathom blue z at MCACN was mine. John
Beautiful car... first time I had seen a 68 painted the color I was stunned, so much so I forgot to take pictures of it.
I have seen original blocks that had the suffix changed and were delivered new as such, the last I saw was a survivor 71 or 72 LT1 vette can't remember if it was ground or obliterated with XXX and new above it?
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I saw the pic of the car. I'd guess Fathom Blue, but I've been wrong on shades of blue before.
It's the strangest stamp I've seen, but I think it's real. Never seen one like that.
Is the VIN stamp in a viable location for a gang holder stamp?
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I've seen quite a few MO's with individual VIN characters hand stamped.
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Hi all,,I have a friend that special order a new 1968 Z/28 RS, Fathom Blue ,April car, vin# N412151..car is long gone..Mitchell