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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: DanZ10 on October 12, 2006, 01:18:18 AM
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Can someone give me the correct starter part number for a 69, 350/300, 4 speed, air car? Is it 1108367?
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Dan
Book shows part number 1108361 and stamping numbers 1107320 - 1108361
69 Chevy, Chevelle, Camaro
(4 BC w.rwg. fuel)
(350)
it also shows part number 1108400 and stamping numbers 1108338 - 8400-8418
69 Chevelle, Camaro (350)
(exc. reg fuel P.G.. T.H 350)
Steve
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What book??
8418 is BB starter.
Do not find it in Colvins book.
Anyone else have additional info???
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Dean,
My September, 1968 P&A 34 shows the following:
Group 2.041 - Motor Assy, Starting
1969 ALL 396
1969 Chevelle, Camaro (350) (exec. reg. fuel) - 1108418 (with switch, stamped 1108418)
My September, 1968 X691A book shows the following:
Group 2.041 - Motor Assembly, Starting
1969 Camaro 350/300 with standard trans, 396 - 1108418
Ed
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Dan
The 1108418 number provide by Ed is an earlier number to the one I provided (1108400). The 418 part number was superseded in March of 1970 with the 400 number but still has the same stamping number (1108418).
Steve
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Thanks everyone for your help....
Dan
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I don't think that's correct. Starter motors were superceded for service so those listings are often incorrect.
Try 1108338, 350 4bbl w/ manual.
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Kurt
I got lost somewhere. What is it that you don't think is correct?
Steve
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You guys are mixing Production part numbers and service part numbers. The 1108338 is the production part number for an L48 with all standard transmissions and late production powerglide transmissions (service part number is 1108418). The 1108420 is the production number for late production TH350 equipped L48s (service part is the same). Production number is 1108361 for all early production automatics (service part number is also 1108361). All of these starters will have the production part number stamped on them even if they are a service part (ie if you had an 1108418, the box label would say 1108418 but the starter would be stamped 1108338)
Difference between the 361 and 338 starters is the solenoid assembly housing drive (nose peice) and drive assembly (more or less teeth). The 420 has the same solenoid and housing drive as the 361 and the same drive assembly as the 338, but it has a different armature than either the 361 or 338 (more torque?). There are a few other small part differences between the 3 different starters as well.
I don't know where the production break occured on these starters. Delco notes them as first jobs, and after jobs, but because the nose peice changed I would ASSUME it was around the time the blocks with the offset starter holes came online (3970010).
1108367 is a production part number for a 68 302 or 327/210HP, or a 69 302, 307, and 327, or a 1970 307 starter.
The 1108418 mentioned above is the production number for a 69 396 (all transmissions), and a 70 396 and 454 with standard transmission starter. Service part is 1108400.
Source is the 67-72 721A Camaro Master Parts Manual Section 2.0 Starter Assemblies.
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OK, In the interest of saving time on my part in research, Please define the difference of service and production numbers.
Thanks
Dean
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OK, In the interest of saving time on my part in research, Please define the difference of service and production numbers.
Thanks
Dean
Many service parts carried different part numbers than the production-line parts for a given application, as they frequently consolidated usages so one part number would be a "functional replacement" for several similar applications, to reduce the quantity of parts they had to stock. Some service parts were the same part number as the production part, but most were not.
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Try 1108338, 350 4bbl w/ manual
Then is this the off the line starter part number for an 04c car?
Thanks for the clarification as well!!
Dean
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Yes, I'm pretty sure that's the correct #.