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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: 69Z28-RS on June 25, 2014, 08:27:47 PM

Title: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28-RS on June 25, 2014, 08:27:47 PM
Can anyone identify the purpose of the bracket shown in the photo below?   It's welded to the body, slightly behind and above the rear end on the driver's side...   If I removed anything from this bracket, I can't recall what it was..  :)
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: Stingr69 on June 25, 2014, 08:35:28 PM
Muffler hangar bracket is my guess.
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: bertfam on June 25, 2014, 08:52:13 PM
Check out UPC 8, sheet A4 in the 69 AIM.

Ed
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28-RS on June 25, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Was that hangar bracket used on dual exhaust cars?  Or only on single exhaust V8 and L6 cars?? I don't think anything has ever been attached to that bracket since I've owned the car (1976).. I took off the original exhaust and replaced it with GM parts at that time....
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: bertfam on June 25, 2014, 11:13:27 PM
Looks like only single exhaust cars. I don't see any reference to it in the N10 or the NC8 option pages.

Ed
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: ko-lek-tor on June 25, 2014, 11:45:36 PM
Looks like only single exhaust cars. I don't see any reference to it in the N10 or the NC8 option pages.

Ed

To clarify Gary, single exhaust usage only, but ALL cars got it regardless.
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28 on June 26, 2014, 01:56:00 AM
Probably there to hold up that end of the muffler? I thought I just saw recently the tail pipes were welded to the muffler OEM? Was there a bracket attached to the frame rail on the passenger side for single exhaust?

 Hey Gary, look on the driver side, I assuming yours is passenger side? There should be a bracket there too. Here is a pic of the one on my car driver side I noticed when I dropped my gas take a few years ago. If I'm looking at the orientation of your pic that should be drivers side correct?
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28-RS on June 26, 2014, 02:37:04 AM
Looks like only single exhaust cars. I don't see any reference to it in the N10 or the NC8 option pages.
Ed
To clarify Gary, single exhaust usage only, but ALL cars got it regardless.

Thanks guys..  I'd been wondering what that was for, as I didn't recall it ever being used since I'd had the car, and it appears to have Never been used...  :)
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28-RS on June 26, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
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Probably there to hold up that end of the muffler? I thought I just saw recently the tail pipes were welded to the muffler OEM? Was there a bracket attached to the frame rail on the passenger side for single exhaust?

 Hey Gary, look on the driver side, I assuming yours is passenger side? There should be a bracket there too. Here is a pic of the one on my car driver side I noticed when I dropped my gas take a few years ago. If I'm looking at the orientation of your pic that should be drivers side correct?

No Gary, that is on the drivers side; nothing on the passenger side, and apparently that bracket is put on the bottom of the body for all cars, but only used for single exhaust cars.   Dual exhaust cars use the brackets we've discussed many times before.. :)
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: Hans L on June 26, 2014, 02:52:08 PM
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To clarify Gary, single exhaust usage only, but ALL cars got it regardless.

Hmmm...just checked my '69 Van Nuys Built Z and no bracket.  Original floor pans.  No sign it was removed.   Sure all cars go it?   I don't have a good picture of that area, but can post later.

Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28-RS on June 26, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
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To clarify Gary, single exhaust usage only, but ALL cars got it regardless.

Hmmm...just checked my '69 Van Nuys Built Z and no bracket.  Original floor pans.  No sign it was removed.   Sure all cars go it?   I don't have a good picture of that area, but can post later.



Your car has been restored, hasn't it Hans?  Perhaps it was removed as 'unnecessary' during that process?   OR perhaps they weren't consistent with putting it on?  Bryan302 told me this morning he didn't find it on his '69 either...

Maybe we need another 'research' activity to determine what percentage (or time of year?) taht dual exhaust cars got that bracket mounted to the body....?
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: Hans L on June 26, 2014, 05:56:36 PM
I have pre-restoration pictures and did the restoration myself.  I can't find any signs of the bracket.  Pretty sure it was never there.

Here's some pics - I don't have a the exact pic with the location, but you can tell from these, it's not there.

Pre-Restoration Clean-up of Underside of Trunk Pan:

(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/jwlittooy/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/2192827343_zpsce50524f.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/jwlittooy/media/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/2192827343_zpsce50524f.jpg.html)

Side-view, pre-restoration:
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/jwlittooy/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/2192827345_zps977af5a7.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/jwlittooy/media/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/2192827345_zps977af5a7.jpg.html)


(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/jwlittooy/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/CRGUndersideFuelTankArea_zpse00e19eb.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/jwlittooy/media/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/CRGUndersideFuelTankArea_zpse00e19eb.jpg.html)


Primered:
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/jwlittooy/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/2192827329_zps0bab8427.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/jwlittooy/media/Camaro%20Assembly/Camaro%20Tear%20Down/2192827329_zps0bab8427.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: BULLITT65 on June 26, 2014, 09:11:19 PM
Well there is a nice pic of the reinforcement plate for the exhaust...  :)
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: Bryan302 on June 27, 2014, 08:51:40 PM
Let's see what we come up with.

69Z28-RS        09C       NOR      Z28      Has Bracket
Hans L              ?         VN         ?         No Bracket
69 Z28             ?          ?           Z28     Has Bracket
Bryan302         05A       NOR      Z28      No Bracket
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: 69Z28 on June 27, 2014, 08:59:34 PM
Let's see what we come up with.

69Z28-RS        09C       NOR      Z28      Has Bracket
Hans L              ?         VN         ?         No Bracket
69Z28             06A      NOR     Z28        Has Bracket
Bryan302         05A      NOR     Z28        No Bracket


Hi Bryan I added the missing data for mine.
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: Hans L on June 27, 2014, 11:45:50 PM
Here's my info:

Hans L:   04B    VN    Z28  No Bracket

It's an RS as well if that matters...probably not.

Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: rsr on June 28, 2014, 12:54:31 AM
There are 2 different bracket designs also.......early vs late build.
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: ban617 on June 28, 2014, 04:35:52 AM
  My 03d Vannuys built Z/28 doesn't have the bracket either....
Title: Re: Purpose of this bracket??
Post by: rsr on June 28, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
bracket on right from late build