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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 05:38:20 AM

Title: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 05:38:20 AM
I purchased a 1969 Camaro and am trying to verify if it's the real deal SS as advertised.  I have the original motor with correct partial vin, HA coded SS350.  The car has multileaf suspension as well as 2 fuel lines.  I've also attached a pic of the drivers rear wheel well to show the frame where there should be a reinforced plate?  It's hard to determine anything with the undercoating there.  Are there any additional things I should be looking for?  Thanks for your help.
Brian
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: ko-lek-tor on June 23, 2014, 11:36:59 AM
welcome Newb geb78. You say the engine is original? HAcode? How could it be anything but an SS? Of course, the first thing that will be asked on this site (so, I will go ahead and ask) is to provide pictures of the Trim Tag and engine stamps/castings/dates/all partial VINs. Hopefully, you have studied all the related information on the site already and can conclude on your own what you have since there is so much information that is presented so well by our site administrators and founders with more detail  topics(and sarcasm/humor) provided by our knowledgable members, here, in the forum. Agree, your pic is hard to determine the "plate". It looks more to be an outline of where a rear ex. hanger was located, but the holes are way too big, so more pics needed, maybe cleaning off that area.
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: cook_dw on June 23, 2014, 11:39:57 AM
Post a pic of the code off the rearend & of the trim tag too.  Doesn't look like there is a plate there unless there is serious undercoating on it.  Id get out the scrapper.

welcome Newb geb78. You say the engine is original? HAcode? How could it be anything but an SS? Of course, the first thing that will be asked on this site (so, I will go ahead and ask) is to provide pictures of the Trim Tag and engine stamps/castings/dates/all partial VINs. Hopefully, you have studied all the related information on the site already and can conclude on your own what you have since there is so much information that is presented so well by our site administrators and founders with more detail  topics(and sarcasm/humor) provided by our knowledgable members, here, in the forum. Agree, your pic is hard to determine the "plate". It looks more to be an outline of where a rear ex. hanger was located, but the holes are way too big, so more pics needed, maybe cleaning off that area.


Beat me to it..
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
Thanks for your replies!  I felt good about have the original motor until I read all the posts about re-stamping them.  I recently changed out the rear end from mine to a 12 bolt., it had a 10 bolt, don't think it was original to the car.  Here's the additional photos, thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
here's the rest
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: ko-lek-tor on June 23, 2014, 06:08:43 PM
This car? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-SS-350-Muncie-4-speed-AC-disc-brakes-numbers-matching-V8-hotrod-/301197332895?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&forcerrptr=true&hash=item4620c2919f&item=301197332895&nma=true&si=VrOWBwjlWBSHXXCY6vob3bfdid8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_150wt_922
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
Yep, that's the one
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: 6667ss138 on June 23, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
Did you recently purchase it and now trying to resell?  In the ebay ad that ended June 7th you are the seller. Not that it matters just curious.
Very nice looking car!
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on June 23, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
VIN: 124379N559468

Paul
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
I was the seller.  I've had the car for 8 months and was going to buy a pro touring camaro my mechanic just finished.  Putting it up for sale got all the questions arising about it's authenticity.  I'd love to get a definitive answer just for my own peace of mind.  I decided against the pro touring car.  I just really like the stock look.  I may make a motor change to add some hp since the original motor is out of the car.  Otherwise I'm just going to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: Mark on June 23, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
How many fuel lines between the fuel tank and the fuel pump, one or two?
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 23, 2014, 11:49:53 PM
2 lines
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: KurtS on June 24, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
So the axle has been replaced and that's the new one?

I can't tell much with that pic, but I question the block.

What's the trans codes?
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: Fred Mertz on June 25, 2014, 12:07:14 AM
Would the date stamp be a "T" and not a "V"?
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: 69 Zee on June 25, 2014, 03:59:34 AM
I can see a resemblance to this pic.  The shape and location,  looks like a hanger plate is there to me.
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: BULLITT65 on June 25, 2014, 04:53:23 AM
easy to see the plate in your pic Zee, I don't see it in the first pic, unless it is buried under a lot of under coating...
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: geb78 on June 25, 2014, 04:58:21 AM
Thanks 69 Zee, I'm going to remove some of the undercoating to know for sure.  KurtS, I don't believe the transmission is original, it's too clean and no partial VIN stamp that I can find.  
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: Stingr69 on June 25, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
There does not appear to be any frame rail reinforcement plate for the drivers side exhaust hangar in that picture.  The block stamp surface looks suspect but it is hard to see the detail.
Title: Re: Real SS?
Post by: 69 Zee on June 26, 2014, 03:25:52 AM
easy to see the plate in your pic Zee, I don't see it in the first pic, unless it is buried under a lot of under coating...
Yeah I see what your saying BULL, My pic shows the plate and a hanger fastened to it.   Geb looks like there may have been a hanger bracket there at one time, and we're seeing an image of were it once was as ko-lek-tor had pointed out.  X2 on scrape away to find the dual exh plate.

good luck