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Title: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: eb911 on April 11, 2014, 09:02:06 AM
Would someone have the entire heavy duty parts list of 67-70 ? I only have one page (see here under). It would be great to have the others.

Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 11, 2014, 01:42:22 PM
neat list. was this from a parts counter parts book, or a flier? Where did you find it?
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 11, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
I've got that information but can't post until later today or possibly on the weekend.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: eb911 on April 11, 2014, 05:18:27 PM
neat list. was this from a parts counter parts book, or a flier? Where did you find it?
A Camaro enthusiast in UK sent it to me. I don't know where it comes from.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: 69Z28-RS on April 11, 2014, 05:52:05 PM
If those are PN's from the 69-72 timeframe, then perhaps they are taken from the 'green sheets', or ..
Special Chevrolet Equipment, High Performance and Modification document??   but the form is a little different in that document, as it has sketches as well..

Gary
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 12, 2014, 05:08:10 AM
This printing of the Chevy HD parts list was printed in "The Complete Chevrolet Book" in 1970.
This comes courtesy of Mike K (Swede70).

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: BULLITT65 on April 12, 2014, 05:52:17 AM
nice, thanks for posting Jon.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: eb911 on April 12, 2014, 06:59:07 AM
Thanks Jon. this is a great piece of information.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 12, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
You're welcome, Eric. Here is a small list of Special Service Parts that were listed in the 1968 Camaro Z/28 brochure issued by GM.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: eb911 on April 13, 2014, 12:45:53 PM
Thank you Jon, I had never seen this list before.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 13, 2014, 08:25:01 PM
You're welcome, Eric.

Below is a copy of the April, 1970 Camaro Heavy Duty Chassis Parts list as printed by General Motors. It is
essentially the same as what I posted from "The Complete Chevrolet Book" above but there are a handful
of part numbers listed in this one that don't appear in the other. This comes courtesy of Dave Horchler.

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 13, 2014, 09:39:12 PM
Here is the small block Chevy Heavy Duty Parts list from 4-14-70, courtesy of Dave Horchler.

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 14, 2014, 01:31:52 PM
Clearances and Specifications for Performance Service sheets dated 1-7-70. Another GM document provided to racers, courtesy of Dave Horchler.

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: eb911 on April 14, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
Stunning docs ! Thank you Jon.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 15, 2014, 12:22:58 AM
You're welcome, Eric. Some very good dry sump info there if you do end up being able to use that setup.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Trans Åm on April 15, 2014, 03:42:21 AM
As if I didn't feel inadequate enough to build a road racing Camaro before, now I really feel inadequate.  :-\


Thank you very much Jon. ;D
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on April 15, 2014, 01:34:28 PM
Sorry, it couldn't be helped.  ;D

Here's the listing of the Heavy Duty Operation Parts for Passenger, Corvette and Camaro from the 4-1-70 Chevrolet Parts Book, courtesy of Dave Horchler.

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: VINCE Z28 on May 03, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
Jon in 1970 was most of the camaro's running rear disc brakes, and were they over the counter units or was aftermarket units allowed?
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on May 03, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
Yes, by 1970 most (but not all) of the cars running in the Trans-Am series were running a 4-wheel disc brake set-up. In 1970, the Trans-Am series started allowing aftermarket brake calipers and rotors. I know that Girling and Hurst-Airheart were some of the brake calipers that got used at that time. With that being said, the factory JL-8 type of brake components were still being used by some competitors and were popular to other teams besides the factory guys because of the more affordable nature of those items.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: VHX032 on May 12, 2014, 02:33:35 AM
Jon- Do you know if the "4 wheel disc brake conversion" calipers had "quick change pads". The brake conversion set I got for my '68 Camaro back in 1970 had 4 piston calipers with pads that had a 90 degree tab the full length of the caliper opening (and pad), and they pulled straight out without unbolting the caliper. Just wondering if there was more than one variant. By the way, the inside mating surface of the rotors and the hubs both needed truing up as they had a huge amount of runout as delivered for some reason.

I need to quickly add that I could be wrong about this. Below is the current rear setup on my old car (front is virtually identical) and it may very well be what I put on it. Frustrating that I don't have detailed build photos from the old days.

Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: VHX032 on May 12, 2014, 03:02:57 AM
Here is what is on the car now and may very well be the original factory heavy duty parts option. What do you think?

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on May 12, 2014, 03:51:49 AM
Sig, I have seen both variants where some people have run the rear calipers with the single pin in the middle and standard looking brake pads and other setups where the calipers have the bent pads held in with twin cotter pins. If you remember the car with the J56 style bent brake pads it would seem that somebody has changed the rear calipers over the course of the last several decades. That would not be surprising.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: VHX032 on May 12, 2014, 04:59:45 AM
Yes, you are correct (of course) after some more research I figured out I had the "J50/J56" type dual pin pads and calipers. Used these type pads that are on eBay right now in fact.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Heavy-Duty-J-56-Brake-Pads-For-a-1965-1976-Chevrolet-Corvette-/151227426504?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2335db66c8&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: mdz on May 17, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
Here are shocks ordered off the H.D. parts list. Suprise Koni shocks in GM parts boxes.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 17, 2014, 09:05:24 PM
Are those on the list posted above? Are those shocks dated?
Also what was the application of those shocks?
What were used by penske team?
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: mdz on May 18, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
The rear shock is dated 8 68 Koni p/n 80E 1953 front shock dated 8 67 p/n 80a-1914 , these are the standard road shocks. The Penske team probably used the double adjustable shocks.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 18, 2014, 12:49:32 AM
So yours would have been an upgrade from the standard spiral shocks used on the Z/28?
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: mdz on May 18, 2014, 12:52:42 AM
The shocks are listed on the last page (155) about a third of the way down, p/n 9791593,9792749.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 18, 2014, 12:58:48 AM
thanks I see it now. I wish it would have listed an application. I know early shelby mustangs used Koni shocks on road courses, I wonder if these were more oriented towards that
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on May 19, 2014, 03:34:34 AM
Gene, thanks for posting pictures of your shocks. Definitely some rare items. I don't think I've ever seen one with an original box before. More shock information can be found in this thread...

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7795.0;all
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 19, 2014, 03:47:42 AM
Were the GM listed HD shocks (Konis) single or double adjustable??
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on May 19, 2014, 04:35:57 AM
They are single-adjustable. I've never seen a set of double-adjustable Konis with a GM part number on them. I don't think the double-adjustables became available until 1968 but I could be wrong about that.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 23, 2014, 09:52:24 PM
Koni's were called out on the 68 Firebird section in my PHS docs I recieved for my HO 4 spd GTO. I had not realized they were an option previously. They are listed for factory billing, whether or not any were installed I haven't a clue.
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on May 25, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
Here's the 1967 Z-28 HD parts list, courtesy of Warren Malkin. The first item on the list is the rear spoiler which ironically was not available to any but a few select race teams in '67. The part number was catalogued so that it was legal for Trans-Am racing but was not available to purchase. Interestingly, when Joie Chitwood wanted a spoiler for his Camaro, GM provided him with a blueprint instead of the part so his car builder (Bob Tucker) had to fabricate it himself.

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Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: BULLITT65 on May 25, 2015, 09:38:22 PM
But how necessary was the blue print, since Donahue ran his spoiler extra tall?
Did it kinda give you a square 1 to start from and then you could modify it how you seemed fit and what you thought you could slip past the officials?
Title: Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list
Post by: Jon Mello on May 26, 2015, 03:22:22 AM
A blueprint would give you an overall idea of what it was supposed to look like. If you wanted to take liberties from there, that was a risk you had to be willing to take. I can't find a picture of Dick Stanton's car showing his rear spoiler but it is a little lower than stock height so I guess he played it conservatively.